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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 23:07:40 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 19 22:24:14 2013. The L needs more than 270 cars to meet service demand? That's 33 trains! |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Wed Jun 19 23:17:44 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 18:28:00 2013. Was on the 0732 Zebra this morning! |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Wed Jun 19 23:19:22 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Jun 19 17:04:57 2013. Anyone know the car # that was smoking? |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jun 19 23:21:36 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Transitbuff on Wed Jun 19 23:19:22 2013. I remember hearing about that one back on the former board - was #4909.wayne |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Wed Jun 19 23:23:59 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 23:06:29 2013. Very true, Chris! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 23:28:46 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 23:07:40 2013. That's what happens when you have riders. And obviously still not enough. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 23:30:40 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 18:28:00 2013. Actually, that's an inside joke among old timey motormen. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 23:31:17 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jun 19 23:21:36 2013. Did a Transit cop give it a ticket? :) |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Wed Jun 19 23:32:49 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by FtGreeneG on Wed Jun 19 20:38:22 2013. Been said before, but needs saying again - they might have 'tin cans' to Lindsey and Ronan, but g-d-n it, they sure as hell have lasted longer than a lot of the 'modern' crap after it!And so they have had a couple of OH's - most of us by 50 have had an overhaul or two ourselves! |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Wed Jun 19 23:33:46 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Wed Jun 19 23:32:49 2013. Amen to that, Lou! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 23:34:43 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 23:28:46 2013. 33 trains for a line running 4 minute headways and which has one of the shortest routes in the system seems excessive. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 23:35:29 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jun 19 23:21:36 2013. Heh, a CI overhaul. They were...bad. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 23:37:53 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 23:34:43 2013. And yet they're packed. That's what you call "success."Moar trains, plz! |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Jun 19 23:43:26 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Transitbuff on Wed Jun 19 23:19:22 2013. I don't remember as this was 7 or 8 years ago, besides once I saw the smoke I ran into the next car via the storm doors. And know one even told the train crew about what happen either.I rode it from BJ to Sutphin Blvd without issue, I assume that car ran in service for a few years after that until the R160s came. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 20 00:17:41 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 23:37:53 2013. Which would be what we desire system wide, no. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 20 00:31:29 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 20 00:17:41 2013. I suppose not. :-\ |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 20 01:22:37 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Wed Jun 19 23:32:49 2013. Budd rules. If they had been OEM wdecent AC... Sure looked sharp. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 20 01:25:18 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 20 00:31:29 2013. So yopu are from the Berra school? No one goes there anymore, its too crowded. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 20 01:32:07 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 20 01:25:18 2013.  (official rap of NYC) Heh. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 20 01:39:24 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 23:07:40 2013. The L needs to do at Wycoff/Myrtle what the LIRR is doing at Massapequa. |
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Posted by renee gil on Thu Jun 20 04:33:21 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 17:44:06 2013. cool! |
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Posted by j trainloco on Thu Jun 20 06:55:56 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 19 22:24:14 2013. Some CBTC equipped R160s operate on the J, since the L, officially, needs 48 cars to make service. Since the nummber of CBTC cars available will decrease, there won't be extras available to make J service. So they're bringing 32s over to cover the J. |
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Posted by j trainloco on Thu Jun 20 06:56:54 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 23:07:40 2013. ?The L only needs 24 trains in the AM. |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Thu Jun 20 08:09:56 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by j trainloco on Thu Jun 20 06:56:54 2013. I just spotted an R 32 consist on the J/Z;;; on Willy Bridge now- due at Broad 0815.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 08:48:01 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by j trainloco on Thu Jun 20 06:55:56 2013. This is madness.. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jun 20 13:27:23 2013, in response to R32 J..., posted by MTA T on Wed Jun 19 10:22:12 2013. Any idea when it is going to run?? Rush hours like the sole R-62A set on #6?? Weekends???This might be worth a stalk run, camera in hand, for this weekend, time permitting. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 20 13:47:54 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 19 13:25:27 2013. This just goes to show that the TA made a mistake in scrapping 1/2 of the R32 fleet. They should have kept almost all of them, until suitable replacements for the rest of the R42 and all the R44s were in... |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:51:41 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 08:48:01 2013. And yet, some ENY R-160s will be heading to the (C) this summer. Around five trains.Oops, did I say that? |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 20 13:53:46 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 20 13:47:54 2013. Didn't the 32s that did get retired have major brake problems? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 20 13:54:50 2013, in response to R32 J..., posted by MTA T on Wed Jun 19 10:22:12 2013. It's nearly 2p. I'll guess the R32 is a put-in today from ENY Yard between 4-4:30p going to Manhattan.Anyone going hunting? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 13:55:04 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:51:41 2013. For R179 crew training ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 13:59:57 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 20 13:53:46 2013. Half had brake and HVAC problems.So they over-scrapped by about 70 cars, getting down to about 226. But that was done not knowing ENY would have to take over the V train. Nonetheless, the TA got obsessive compulsive about scrapping rather than mothballing for unforeseen circumstances (again). Those 70 cars could have put the R42 out of their misery a couple of years ago. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 20 14:00:57 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 17:44:06 2013. Awesome! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 20 14:02:32 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 17:42:48 2013. Thanks for posting... |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 20 14:03:31 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 20 14:00:57 2013. I agree, its cool seeing the 32s "upstairs" at Broadway Junction. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 14:16:53 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jun 20 13:27:23 2013. I spent the entire afternoon looking for it yesterday. Nada. Maybe it's just an extra, used in a pinch. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 14:21:06 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:51:41 2013. 
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Posted by VictorM on Thu Jun 20 16:48:58 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:51:41 2013. Maybe they want to eventually swap the C's R32's with the J/Z's R160's. This would solve the air conditioning problems on the R32's on the C while, since the R32's on the J/Z would be running mostly above ground, they (hopefully) wouldn't have the same problems on that line. Both lines have about the same car requirements. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 20 17:19:54 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by VictorM on Thu Jun 20 16:48:58 2013. The problem with doing that is normally, the C runs between 168 St and Euclid whenever it runs with no change in terminals or class of service and consequently no sign changing. The J OTOH has the alternate Z service with certain AM rush hour drop outs at Bway Jct which unlike the C require variations in signage which the R-160s can handle easily especially if either a J or Z have to be swapped at the terminal for any reason or a Bway Jct dropout has to be swapped with a through train due to some sort of a problem on the road. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 20 17:24:43 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by randyo on Thu Jun 20 17:19:54 2013. Most of the AM rush hour drop outs at Bway Junction are already run with R42s, and the crew doesn't change the signs. The introduction of R32s wouldn't make much of a difference. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Thu Jun 20 17:28:15 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 13:59:57 2013. Yes once again that old TA proverb comes back to haunt them" Scrap first and ask questions later" . |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 17:40:49 2013, in response to R32 J watch ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 17:39:09 2013. At Woodhaven Blvd right now, headed to Jamaica. #3924 at the south end. SIgned up as a J, so chance it remains in service. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 17:41:26 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 20 17:24:43 2013. The R32's have crappy Z route signs on the side. There is simply a centered brown Z, no "Jamaica/Nassau St" description, though that is all you get with an R42.I think one R42 Z becomes a J after AM rush once back in Jamaica. In any case, they stash one east of Parsons during the day, and it comes out at 330pm. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 17:42:57 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Mr. D - Type on Thu Jun 20 17:28:15 2013. They could have left 50 R30's on the Z until the R143's came. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 20 17:49:24 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 17:41:26 2013. I railfanned the J/Z during both AM and PM rush hours on both June 10th and June 17th, and here's what I saw:Around 3 sets of R42s are signed up as Z trains, and return north to terminate at Broadway Junction. Around 3 sets of R42s come south signed up as J trains. Usually two are layed up, one at Parsons, one at 111th. The third set may be layed up at ENY, or sometimes will run all day. With the R160 SMS going on, there is one, sometimes two sets of R42s running all day now. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 17:50:40 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 20 17:49:24 2013. 2, not counting the 3:30 put in at JC. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 17:55:59 2013, in response to Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 17:40:49 2013. To add: since 5:30, 5 of the 6 trains passing by my house eastbound have either been R32 or R42. I love how the sun glints off the rust as they rumble by. |
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Posted by CJ on Thu Jun 20 18:01:28 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 17:42:57 2013. Wasn't there an actual plan to keep some of the R30s on the property for possible service increases? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 18:08:29 2013, in response to Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 17:40:49 2013. Sadly, the train is returning OOS to ENY, trailing the 17:56 out of JC. That train is an R42 signed as a Z. It seems they really don't want to use this R32 train unless they absolutely have to. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Jun 20 18:33:46 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 20 13:47:54 2013. I wouldn't have scrapped ANY of the R32s. Were the problems with the Phase II's THAT insurmountable?wayne |
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