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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 17 16:50:16 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by SLRT on Mon Jun 17 16:23:11 2013. Still makes no sense. In 1970 the West End was not the D train. Brighton was.See my earlier response to renee gil |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 17 19:32:02 2013, in response to MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by BusRider on Sun Jun 16 15:38:55 2013. For those of you who mentioned the 3 Av El, if you look carefully, the 3 Av el is NOT on that map. The line that appears to be the 3 Av el is actually the Metro North ROW. There was a proposal to let M/N use the middle tracks of the ROW and give NYCT use of the local tracks between the Mott Haven area and Woodlawn. Take a careful look at the stations and you will see that they are actually NYCRR/MN stations. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 19:53:25 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 17 19:32:02 2013. That woulda sucked ... no stop at 204th? :) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 17 20:30:51 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 17 16:14:06 2013. They could have added some Greek letters if they needed extra letters. It would have given the subway system a touch of class. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Jun 17 20:33:49 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 17 20:30:51 2013. Or Hebrew letters, and laugh at the idiot tourists mistaking a Resh for a Daleth. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 17 22:06:48 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 17 19:32:02 2013. For those of you who mentioned the 3 Av El, if you look carefully, the 3 Av el is NOT on that map. The line that appears to be the 3 Av el is actually the Metro North ROW.That makes more sense than rebuilding the el with fewer stations. The el is on the map in the eBay auction, though (phase one). |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 17 22:46:20 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 17 22:06:48 2013. That makes more sense than rebuilding the el with fewer stations.And especially since all but two of the station names are existing MNR stations :). |
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Posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 18 03:30:37 2013, in response to MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by BusRider on Sun Jun 16 15:38:55 2013. Rg1BRl+ItiNi!~~60_57.JPG) |
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Posted by BusRider on Tue Jun 18 08:24:57 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 18 03:30:37 2013. That is it! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 18 10:03:09 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 17 13:45:35 2013. Seeing the map which includes the Utica Avenue, Nostrand extensions and using part of the Bay Ridge line, which were all in the Department of City Planning's master plan for NYC, it sounds like someone at the MTA was given the task to redo the lettering scheme after these extensions were made and that's what they came up with.On another note, did you go to Bill's memorial service on June 1st or know anyone who went? I wasn't able to make it. |
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Posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 18 13:24:01 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 18 03:30:37 2013. Here is a High res PDF of the map:http://www.hopetunnel.org/temp/map.pdf |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 18 13:53:41 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 18 13:24:01 2013. If you,look carefully, it's not the same map. the older version does have the 3 Av el while the high res PDF has a route shown via M/N trackage with the 3 Av el gone. |
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Posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 18 13:57:09 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 18 13:53:41 2013. yup. good observation. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 00:08:28 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jun 16 17:18:45 2013. Good old Heaving Harry.:) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 00:12:04 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 18 13:24:01 2013. Why, there's even a P line!:) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 00:12:58 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 17 15:53:13 2013. It would have completely trashed the original IND letter scheme. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 19 06:00:23 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 18 13:53:41 2013. If you,look carefully, it's not the same map. the older version does have the 3 Av el while the high res PDF has a route shown via M/N trackage with the 3 Av el gone.It isn't an "older version," it's the first phase of a two phase plan. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 19 07:31:01 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 18 13:24:01 2013. Thanks. it certainly was an ambitious program, and envisioned more service than was ever built- along with preservation of the 3 Ave Line, Bowling Green, and Culver Shuttles... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 19 10:32:01 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 19 07:31:01 2013. The Third Avenue line would not have been preserved. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 19 13:55:40 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jun 16 17:18:45 2013. Actually, with the recent development of the Downtown Bkln area as a sort of "second CBD" it would have made sense for the Fulton lcl by whatever letter you would have wanted to call it to operate all the way to Court St in service. Remember, this was proposed before the establishment of the Transit Museum. |
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Posted by BusRider on Wed Jun 19 14:16:08 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by randyo on Wed Jun 19 13:55:40 2013. What year did the museum open? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 19 14:18:18 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 19 00:12:04 2013. Passenger to station agent: How do I get to Penn Station? Station agent to passenger: Go downstairs and take a P. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 19 14:22:53 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by BusRider on Wed Jun 19 14:16:08 2013. 1976. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 16:02:31 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by randyo on Wed Jun 19 13:55:40 2013. People still want Manhattan, so the old alignment would still not make much sense, unless there was a third route (2nd local) along Fulton St. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jun 19 16:32:31 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by randyo on Wed Jun 19 13:55:40 2013. Even with the growth of downtown Brooklyn, any Court St bound local train would dump most of its passengers, who wish to go to Manhattan, at Hoyt. Unless, my wish is fufilled- a tunnel under Clinton St, connecting Schermerhorn/Clinton with Montague/Clinton. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jun 19 16:54:55 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 19 10:32:01 2013. I thought that the lower Myrtle Ave el was bad, till I rode the 3rd Ave el in 1970! |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jun 19 17:20:23 2013, in response to Re: MTA Internal 1970 Route Proposals, posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 18 13:24:01 2013. beautifully ambitious. |
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