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SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013 Work came to a crawl recently on the A line tracks South of Howard Beach. While sinking new pilings, workers found what they thought was a sunken barge less than 20 feet from the right of way,. and about ¼ mile from the southern approach to the North Channel Bridge. Further investigation revealed that it was actually a late 19th Century or early 20th century vintage railroad passenger coach. 2/3 of the car, which is barely more than a frame now, is upright but buried in sand and mud. The car is also inhabited by a large school of American Eels. Railroad preservationists are expected to go to court today or Monday to have worked stopped on the segment of track adjacent to the submerged car until the preservationists have an opportunity to explore the car and determine it’s history and historical significance. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Outside the Box on Sat Jan 19 12:56:45 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. LIRR? It might had been on trestle when it burned. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jan 19 13:05:18 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. Peta will be out there to save the eels. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 19 14:39:21 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Outside the Box on Sat Jan 19 12:56:45 2013. no cars were left on the trestle when it burned. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by 167t on Sat Jan 19 15:45:46 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. Mmmmm eels. |
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Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 19 15:50:36 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. My hearing is OK. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by nasadowsk on Sat Jan 19 15:52:08 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. Well, if your hovercraft isn't full of eels, at least your railcar is... |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Jan 19 16:08:29 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by nasadowsk on Sat Jan 19 15:52:08 2013. LOL! |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 16:23:35 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. My grandfather used to fish for eel's around the rocks at North Channel bridge. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 19 16:36:11 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. An MP54 did take a plunge. There was a picture of it in one of the LIRR history books. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 19 16:39:28 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 19 16:36:11 2013. it took a plunge at the hammels bridge,no loss of life. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 19 16:54:45 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 19 16:39:28 2013. So it can't be that one ? |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 17:38:53 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. I heard about this Thursday. It's just too cold to go out there and see what's going on. Maybe tomorrow. |
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Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Jan 19 18:30:17 2013, in response to Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 19 15:50:36 2013. He is using the Royal Canterlot Voice...it is tradition! |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Jan 19 18:51:41 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by 167t on Sat Jan 19 15:45:46 2013. Smoked, they're mighty yummy. Tastes like sardines or kippers.-w- |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Jan 19 18:57:22 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 17:38:53 2013. Wait, this is real? I'm in Florida and out of the loop.... |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 18:59:14 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Jan 19 18:57:22 2013. G1 what are you doin down here? this is gods waitin room, well at least where I am. LOL |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 19:14:23 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Jan 19 18:57:22 2013. Apparently so. Word was out Thursday. I'd love to know what car it actually is. Builder's plate perhaps. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jan 19 19:35:53 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 19:14:23 2013. Since it sounds like it's down to the frame, it's going to be hard to find even that. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 19:38:55 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jan 19 19:35:53 2013. Length and Width measurements of the frame would still go a long way in identifying some info about the car however. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 19 20:30:41 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 19:14:23 2013. IINM, by the late 1940s, MP-54s ruled the roost out on the Peninsula, no?According to Change At Ozone Park, the last real heavy maintenance the bridge and trestle got was at the start of (for us) WWII in 1941. I'm wondering if this limited the types of equipment operated there in later years... |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 20:35:14 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 19 20:30:41 2013. Could be. I've been looking at fleet rosters to see what cars might have been lost out there. I doubt if they lost one and no one ever noticed. I wonder if they might try to bring it up. Would it be worth it? |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 20:42:40 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 20:35:14 2013. and you know the old saying, where there's one............ |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 19 20:44:34 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 20:35:14 2013. It would be quite a shock to raise the car and discover it was a VERY early LIRR MP-41...lots of people forget just how long there has been train service to the Rockaways...and the trestle had other incidents over the years besides the fire that forced its sale. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sat Jan 19 21:22:46 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. For a second I thought this was going to be like 76th Street - - apparently they uncovered more than a 1902 Coca-Cola bottle on the flats. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jan 19 21:23:33 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jan 19 13:05:18 2013. Them is good eating ;-) |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jan 19 21:39:39 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 20:35:14 2013. Doubt it. IMO the sea water would've done too much damage. It's just a pile of rust in the shape of a car frame. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Amanda on Sat Jan 19 23:00:31 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 16:23:35 2013. My grandfather and uncles used to fish foe eels in the Gowanus Canal (shudder). |
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Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jan 19 23:23:31 2013, in response to Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 19 15:50:36 2013. Typing =/= hearing |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 23:24:55 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Amanda on Sat Jan 19 23:00:31 2013. < shudders too LOL. |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 23:27:16 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 19 20:44:34 2013. they did use LIRR as fill out on LI, maybe they did the same there? Goona be nice if we can find out what actually happened. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 23:36:01 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 23:27:16 2013. Still, if that was the case, then there would be some sort of record. That being the case, why would the preservationists be going to court? |
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Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 20 07:47:08 2013, in response to Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 19 15:50:36 2013. No, not hearing, eels. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sun Jan 20 08:20:55 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 19 23:36:01 2013. good point. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 08:30:57 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jan 19 21:23:33 2013. PETA stand for People Eating Tasty Animals! |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 20 08:52:18 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 19 16:54:45 2013. no. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 20 08:53:51 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 19:38:55 2013. could be used as land fill. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Jan 20 09:58:44 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. If it had gotten there in some sort of accident there certainly would be records. Trains falling off trestles aren't the sort of thing that escapes notice. Yet it's also pretty hard to think of other reasons why it would have gotten there ...My blog |
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Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach |
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Posted by Bill West on Sun Jan 20 13:47:43 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by mike cruz on Sun Jan 20 08:20:55 2013. If it’s 19th century (pre 1905) it’s wood. LIRR dropped its last wooden coaches in 1927 and they were sold, scrapped or put into work service. A work car could easily become a MOW body on the ROW, especially at a big project. At that point it’s off the roster. When it is worn out as a MOW shack just pushing it over in the fill with no records is easy to envision.Bill |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 21 18:44:17 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Jan 19 18:51:41 2013. I've had smoked Atlantic eel. My father's good buddy in Bahston had a smoker rigged up in his backyahd and we sampled some eel during our visits in 1962 and 1965. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 21 18:46:03 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 21 18:44:17 2013. I'd still be eating the same eel. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jan 21 18:54:11 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 21 18:44:17 2013. Given their snake-like appearance when alive, I could never bring myself to eat one. |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 21 18:59:21 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Joe V on Mon Jan 21 18:54:11 2013.  I totally agree! |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Jan 21 19:08:08 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. Is he doing this rightfully? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jan 21 21:04:42 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jan 19 21:23:33 2013. Eel make great Sushi rolls with fried shrimp, cucumber, and avocado! |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by MR RT on Tue Jan 22 07:54:59 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. I'll bet it is a boat frame |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jan 22 09:00:35 2013, in response to Re: Sunken rail car found near Howard Beach, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 19 15:50:36 2013. But you still continue to POOP in your pants daily!
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 22 09:44:27 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jan 22 09:00:35 2013. Hey Jolson. How are you today |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jan 22 14:47:17 2013, in response to SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Sat Jan 19 12:27:17 2013. I really hope there's no serious threat of an injunctio to stop the resotration work. I mean, by now, the submerged car probably can't be raised without it falling apart completely, and we can't save everything, anyway.And how has previous work been done there, w/o disturbing this car- like in 1955-56? |
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Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 22 14:55:25 2013, in response to Re: SUNKEN RAIL CAR FOUND NEAR HOWARD BEACH, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jan 22 14:47:17 2013. Will also be interesting if we end up with another "Snail Darter" Scenario with the ecology people battling it out in court with the preservationist people. My the best group win. |
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