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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 04:20:46 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 22 13:34:09 2012. Why wouldn't they? |
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Posted by 5119 on Mon Jul 23 19:01:14 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by 3-9 on Sun Jul 22 12:06:19 2012. How fast were they? I heard that the Kinko's hit 35mph. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jul 23 19:08:47 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by 5119 on Mon Jul 23 19:01:14 2012. PCCs do better than that |
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Posted by 5119 on Mon Jul 23 19:14:52 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jul 23 19:08:47 2012. I thought PCC"s could only hit about 33mph. That's about what they did in Philadelphia back in the 1960's. |
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Posted by 5119 on Mon Jul 23 19:16:18 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jul 23 19:08:47 2012. I thought PCC"s could only hit about 33mph. That's about what they did in Philadelphia back in the 1960's. I rode a #10 car on it's way tyo 63rd and Malvern back in 1975 and that car seemed to stuggle to make 30mph on 63rd Street. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 19:24:37 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by 5119 on Mon Jul 23 19:01:14 2012. Kinko's? They run print stores on the Newark Subway now?The Kinki-Sharyo cars apparently have a top speed of 55 mph. They get up to that speed on "Bayonne Flyer" express runs on the HBLR. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 19:28:04 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by 5119 on Mon Jul 23 19:14:52 2012. 33 mph on what part of the system? |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Tue Jul 24 00:52:39 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by 5119 on Mon Jul 23 19:16:18 2012. 42mph design top speed using 25" wheels. Philly and El Paso did some rewiring to limit top speed to 25mph. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jul 24 01:07:31 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Tue Jul 24 00:52:39 2012. thank you for the definitive data. |
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Posted by 5119 on Tue Jul 24 12:22:46 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 19:28:04 2012. 63rd Street enroute to Malvern Avenue on the #10 car. |
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Posted by 5119 on Tue Jul 24 12:24:05 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Tue Jul 24 00:52:39 2012. Thanks!, NO I see why the cars in Philly ran so slow. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 24 19:23:52 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 22 17:28:07 2012. So was the CPW express dash back in the day. I did mention that my very first CPW joyride was on a prewar D, didn't I?:) That was before you came on board, btw. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 24 19:24:53 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 24 19:23:52 2012. Best CPW ride though was always in the cab ... you had to use the force. :) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 24 19:25:25 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 04:20:46 2012. Because most of our light rail routes are on private ROW, most of which is grade-separated. Trains do 55 mph between stops. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 25 23:05:35 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 24 19:24:53 2012. As long as nothing fell onto your lap, right?:) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 25 23:12:42 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 25 23:05:35 2012. It was just a lid ... :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 23:12:56 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 24 19:25:25 2012. The Newark Subway is a mostly-grade-separated private right of way. Before being extended onto the former Erie Orange Branch (dumb idea IMHO), the sole grade crossing was at Orange Street Station. NJT's "upgrade" included removing flag stops, which makes no sense whatsoever. They also cut the number of trips in half. Signaling foibles are what slows the system down even more. Nothing particularly unique between Denver and Newark light rail systems; gotta watch out for those signal systems causing penalty brake applications. The HBLR also does 55 mph between stations between Liberty State Park and Bayonne; doesn't stop it from crawling north of there. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Aug 5 09:29:22 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jul 23 19:08:47 2012. Balancing speed for a PCC car is 42 MPH. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 5 10:07:21 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jul 23 19:08:47 2012. I was very close to the NCS operating personnel for many years (starting in 1958) and mention this with accuracy. While the normal balancing speed is 42mph for a PCC, certain cars had items called field taps (or similar) that allowed a higher speed. Thus certain cars could attain higher speeds, and, although since these cars did not have speedometers, there wasn't any record of how fast they actually went. But I had been on these cars and was even permitted to test operate them and can assure you they were fast..... |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 5 10:23:49 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:16:25 2012. It used to be a fun ride.........Agreed. Its was especially fun before the 1980's rebuilding. The best place to sit was in the middle of the rear seat. The PCC's were full of pep and they could move. It was always nice to visit Penn Station and see all the cars stored there. It was a whole gaggle of PCC's. I don't dislike the LRV's. They tend to grow on you and they do their work well but the PCC's were always something special. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 5 13:19:28 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 5 10:23:49 2012. You mean they could do their work well if not for that abomination of a signal system that throws on penalty brake applications for no good reason. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Aug 5 18:26:12 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 22 19:39:26 2012. In other words PSEG has taken control of LIPA. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 20:08:29 2012, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Aug 5 18:26:12 2012. Still a tremendous improvement over what was and what could be (National Grid) ... |
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Posted by CON4144 on Sat Mar 21 22:42:39 2015, in response to Re: Newark City Subway, posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Jul 22 18:00:38 2012. Used to ride the Newark City Subway when they had the old yellow trolleys. Rode the #29 Bloomfield which fed into the subway. Also the #15 Nutley, #82 Watsessing buses that terminated at Franklin Ave. Bus # A700's and A300's. Favorite buses at that time F700-F710 on the #118 Newark-New York |
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