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Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jun 19 12:56:07 2012

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It’s a new day at the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. We’re leaner.

Aggressive cost-cutting has paid off with better performance and increased efficiency in America’s largest and most reliable mass-transit network. But non-discretionary expenses and labor costs threaten to cripple the MTA — and our region’s economy along with it.

It’s not yet common knowledge, but the agency is in an era of cost-containment and -control unlike anything in its history — as even a quick glance at the MTA’s financial statement reveals.

Annual expense reductions in the operating budget — that is, savings that recur year after year — totaled about $700 million in 2011 and will grow to $890 million in 2015. That’s 11 percent of our discretionary operating budget.

How did we do it? We eliminated more than 3,500 positions, including 20 percent of our headquarters staff. We renegotiated vendor contracts. We froze wages for all non-union employees. We rebid employee health care. We reduced unnecessary overtime and consolidated redundant functions.

The list goes on and on . . . and this work is far from over. In 2012 and beyond, we’ll continue to slash costs while looking for creative ways to bring in revenue.

We reduced office-lease space by 15 percent, and will cut our facilities costs further when we unload our Madison Avenue headquarters. We’ll consolidate more administrative and operating functions. We’re refinancing our outstanding debt. We’re exploring the sale of air rights. And we’re doing it all without cutting service or inconveniencing our customers.

Bottom line: We’re doing everything we can to hold the line on expenses we can control, and we’re seeing results.

Over the last year, during a period of 2.8 percent inflation, the MTA’s discretionary costs of $6.3 billion have increased only 0.6 percent. They’re forecast to rise just 1.8 percent from 2010 to 2015, significantly below the rate of inflation.

But nondiscretionary costs, which totaled $5.2 billion in 2011, are another story entirely. Over that same 2010-to-2015 period, our health-care costs are forecast to jump 9.5 percent. Pension costs rise 6.9 percent. Energy costs go up 9.7 percent. And debt service is projected to increase 7.5 percent.

If left unchecked, these nondiscretionary costs will be more than $2 billion higher by 2015.

All the while — during a time of unprecedented cost-cutting at the MTA, and as our nondiscretionary costs spiral out of control — binding arbitration has required that members of our largest labor union get pay hikes of 4 percent in 2009, 4 percent in 2010 and 3 percent in 2011.

That’s a whopping 11 percent over the last three years, at a time when New York City’s cost-of-living index rose 4.6 percent.

Managers and non-union workers haven’t been so lucky. They got 0 percent in 2009, 0 percent in 2010 and 0 percent in 2011. Today, these public servants have gone four years without so much as a cost-of-living increase.

That’s why the MTA is asking its unionized workforce, during its current contract talks, to forego raises for the next three years.

In these tough financial times, getting the MTA onto sound financial footing requires sacrifices from everyone involved in safely moving 8.5 million people every day — 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

As it stands now, our customers have given: They’ve endured fare and toll hikes and service cuts needed to close deficits.

Local businesses have given, through the Payroll Mobility Tax, to the tune of more than $1.2 billion a year.

The MTA has given: We’re on track to achieve cumulative operating expense savings of $3.8 billion by 2014.

Our managers and non-union employees have given: Their salaries are stuck in 2008.

Now it’s time for labor to be part of the solution.

— Joseph J. Lhota is chairman and CEO of the MTA.

———http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/time_for_labor_to_sacrifice_ygXopGifRQLWRAbnU6VxkL#ixzz1yG7Ytbwg


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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 13:09:29 2012, in response to Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jun 19 12:56:07 2012.

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Blah blah blah blah blah..



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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 13:11:52 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 13:09:29 2012.

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In the meantime, let that lout give up his limo & driver to save some money. He has a pass. He should use it.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 13:16:20 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 13:11:52 2012.

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Thats not the only thing...

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 13:17:32 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 13:16:20 2012.

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It's a start - to the extent that we still need the MTA

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 13:20:20 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 13:17:32 2012.

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The door swings both ways Steve you know this as well as i Do..

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 13:22:10 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 13:20:20 2012.

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Absolutely.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 13:23:03 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 13:22:10 2012.

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This game has been played for years and it will continue to play..

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Ble-nimx on Tue Jun 19 14:24:13 2012, in response to Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jun 19 12:56:07 2012.

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Sell 2 Broadway. Get rid of Livingston Street and the whole Labor Relations unit and put discipline back in the hands of Line Supts. Train operators uniforms aren't needed with valid id. Combined millions can be saved upon startup. That's my the giveback to lhota if I may

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 15:26:18 2012, in response to Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jun 19 12:56:07 2012.

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How did we do it? We eliminated more than 3,500 positions,including 20 percent of our headquarters staff. We renegotiated vendor contracts. We froze wages for all non-union employees.

Our managers and non-union employees have given: Their salaries are stuck in 2008.

This is what no one on this board wants to hear. Employee costs remain the MTA's biggest expense, and MTA has already taken steps to trim their non-represented work force's costs. If the MTA is going to become a more efficient operation, some type of change will need to be made to the current represented workforce. I don't necessarily agree that 'three zeros' is the answer, but thinking that all of the MTA's buget issues will be fixed purely through cutting management/administrative costs is unrealistic.

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Re: Time for Nazis like Gold-12TH to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Rockparkman on Tue Jun 19 15:55:51 2012, in response to Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jun 19 12:56:07 2012.

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FATCAT NAZI USELESS EATERS DON"T SEND THEIR KIDS TO DIE IN BIG OIL'S STUPID WARS, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE DO.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Jeromeline on Tue Jun 19 17:48:27 2012, in response to Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jun 19 12:56:07 2012.

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Ask any TD, ATD, or TSS why their wages are stuck in 2008 and you'll find out that they are working without a contract! Nice way to put a spin on things

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 17:52:21 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Jeromeline on Tue Jun 19 17:48:27 2012.

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We dont want to confuse some folks here with facts now..

Looks like the NY (Toilet Paper)Post does all the time...

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 19:10:28 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Jeromeline on Tue Jun 19 17:48:27 2012.

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How is unilaterally deciding not to give SSSA members a new contract any different than unilaterally deciding not to give non-represented members a new contract?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 19 19:11:05 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 15:26:18 2012.

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I don't necessarily agree that 'three zeros' is the answer

Though that's exactly what the major state employee unions got with their renegotiation... I don't see how the MTA unions can argue that their case should be any different.

The situation was the same as the current one for the MTA: PEF/CSEA got 3%/3%/4% with their previous contract, but management/confidential employees got 3%/0/0 as the raises were "administratively withheld", keeping them stuck in 2008.

The public employee unions had to accept 0/0/0/2 for the next four years, and still no raise for M/Cs in sight. If any different happens with the MTA it will be quite a surprise.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 19:13:34 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 19:10:28 2012.

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How is unilaterally deciding not to give SSSA members a new contract any different than unilaterally deciding not to give non-represented members a new contract?

They choose to work in that field correct?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 19:24:48 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 19:13:34 2012.

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How does that apply to what I said?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 19:36:21 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 19:10:28 2012.

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SSSA has few members relative to the total workforce. They have little bargaining power. Their members can also supplement their salaries with overtime so they are not hurting too bad. T&P people and managers who have not had a raise in 4 years do not have the benefit of overtime. The only ones who have had raises are the ones who were promoted during this period.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 19:47:18 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 19:24:48 2012.

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They choose to work non union right?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 19 19:48:00 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Jeromeline on Tue Jun 19 17:48:27 2012.

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I really hope the supervisors get a fair contract and a nice pay bump. It's become very unappealing to promote to the ranks of supervision, especially with how easy overtime comes to Train Operators.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jun 19 19:57:09 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 19 19:48:00 2012.

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One has to be pretty desperate and really hate the road to become a TSS, ATD, or TD today.

80% of top pay for 3 years. TD title is broadbanded to include yard dispatcher, 2 completely different disciplines.

A Train Dispatcher for 3 years get paid a lower hourly wage than the t/o's and c/'s he supervises.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jun 19 20:08:46 2012, in response to Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jun 19 12:56:07 2012.

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Notice as always the title of the article refers to MTA labor unions, but read the article and it exclusively refers to Local 100 and our supervisors.

Not a word about LIRR, MTA Police, MTA B & T, MNCRR. Only NYC subway and bus workers, THE lowest paid in entire MTA who serve the most customers.

As always, the lowest on the food chain being asked to fall further behind.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 20:12:58 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 19:36:21 2012.

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I understand all those things. However, it was pointed out by a previous poster that the lack of a pay raise was due to first tier supervision not getting a contract. A second poster seemed to indicate that this fact proved that Lhota was putting a spin on the 'zero' wage increases. I am just wondering how that is the case.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 20:14:12 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 19:47:18 2012.

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I commented on two separate groups, neither of which is really 'union'. Which group is the "they" you are referring to?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 20:14:15 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jun 19 20:08:46 2012.

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Exactly not a Peep about them per say nice and slick the way it was said..

Its all about the TWU and they keep pouring that Kool-aide and folks still keep drinking it..

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 20:15:39 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 20:14:12 2012.

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Our managers and non-union employees have given: Their salaries are stuck in 2008.

This group what do you think i was referring to?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 20:22:48 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 20:15:39 2012.

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I was specifically comaparing two separate groups that fall under that designation, which is why I was confused.

Each of them chose to work non-union, but so what? Working a union job does not automatically entitle you to specific raises, benefits or even having a job.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 20:27:12 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 20:22:48 2012.

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Working a union job does not automatically entitle you to specific raises, benefits or even having a job.

Yet you get a chance to have your Union bargain for something thats the difference..

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 20:36:11 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 20:27:12 2012.

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I agree 100% with you. Of course, I can bargain with my employer as well: if I am a truly valued employee, the threat of me leaving will get me a raise. Unfortunately, at Transit, no one cares about that, which is the disadvantage of being employed at a union. Some of your co-workers suck, but they will get the same raise as you.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 20:49:22 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 20:36:11 2012.

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Unfortunately, at Transit, no one cares about that

I think they just dont care period Union or Not...

Some of your co-workers suck, but they will get the same raise as you.

The one thing is though after a while they fire themselves and RTO isnt as forgiving as it used to be, i cant speak for other departments.

Though i hear that Surface and Stations situations isnt any better..

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by merrick1 on Tue Jun 19 21:00:33 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jun 19 19:57:09 2012.

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In many organizations first line supervision is something you do to build your resume. You hope that you can move up or move on with some supervisory experience on your resume.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 21:19:09 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 19 20:49:22 2012.

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I think they just dont care period Union or Not...

Agreed.

The one thing is though after a while they fire themselves and RTO isnt as forgiving as it used to be,i cant speak for other departments.

You don't have to commit an offense worthy of termination to suck. Case in point: the biggest complaint I get from customers during GOs is that they jut got off a train and the C/Rs made no announcements about the service change. Some C/Rs make great announcements and go the extra mile... others give no info. Both get paid the same.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 23:16:38 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 19:10:28 2012.

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By definition, non-represented employees do not have a "contract" such as the represented titles have. Managers and other non represented titles serve at the pleasure of the authority although Civil Service law does give non represented employees who came up through the ranks, certain protections in certain instances.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 23:20:28 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jun 19 20:08:46 2012.

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A part of that is that while the LIRR unions advocate strongly of their members, the TWU is usually marching for some "Civil Rights" cause. When was the last time you say the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers marching against the Stop & Frisk laws or against a fare increase?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 20 00:45:38 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 23:20:28 2012.

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How many members in the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers live in the City/are minorities/even care about stop and frisk?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 20 00:54:10 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 20 00:45:38 2012.

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I don't know? Do you really believe that its the union's place to take on these social issues at the expense of their member immediate and long term needs?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 01:26:01 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 20 00:54:10 2012.

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While i dont agree with them doing that Steve i can understand Why they would want to..

As i have said its my union like it or lump it.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 20 02:13:59 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 20 00:54:10 2012.

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Of course not. But in this case, it's more like political posturing, and trying to "connect" to its represented workforce's ideals.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Jun 20 06:46:43 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Ble-nimx on Tue Jun 19 14:24:13 2012.

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Train operators uniforms aren't needed with valid id.

I like my Uniforms, why should I have to wear my own shirts and pants to work and wast my money on them. I not getting a raise. I have to pay for my wife and kids stuff, now you want more money that I don't have wasted on this stuff for me. No thank you. Let them pay for this shit.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Mr RT on Wed Jun 20 11:35:17 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 19 23:16:38 2012.

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You can write the National Labor Relations Board about your grievance or contact TMBA (Transit Managers Benevolent Assoc.)

But you have to have a lot of guts to do either, because bosses tend to have a long memory about such things.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Mr RT on Wed Jun 20 11:39:08 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by merrick1 on Tue Jun 19 21:00:33 2012.

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But you shouldn't be getting less then the folks who work for you.
When that difference is a lot, which is happening now, you get a big moral problem. But management at the top doesn't seem to care :-(

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Mr RT on Wed Jun 20 11:49:27 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 15:26:18 2012.

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You are correct, but in NYC you have to pay the previaling wage.
I have been for safety in the system vs. cost saving thru reduced staff, e.g. Conductor, Token Booth Clerk.

Cutting these folks is a drop in the bucket compared the way the MTA is very good at spemding & wasting money.

- How much is the rehab on the Brightion line costing, Fulton Street complex, etc.
- East Side Access is going to cost over $8 Billion dollars
- 2nd Ave Stubway is going to cost over $5.5 Billion dollars

The politians are also afraid to raise the fare while at the same time they dip into the money earmarked for the MTA and spend it on other things.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:27:04 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Mr RT on Wed Jun 20 11:49:27 2012.

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You still don't understand the difference between the two different budgets?

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Jeromeline on Wed Jun 20 14:20:52 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:27:04 2012.

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But the TA is taking money from one budget to pay interest on loans taken out for the other budget.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by Jace on Wed Jun 20 14:23:31 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jun 19 20:08:46 2012.

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It sounds like MTA is laying the groundwork for a fare increase on NYCT. Look, we did a great job cutting all these costs, we even tried to cut union labor but got nothing. All that's left is to raise the fare...

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 20 14:58:51 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Jace on Wed Jun 20 14:23:31 2012.

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That sounds about right.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Jun 20 16:46:55 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jun 19 15:26:18 2012.

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Employee costs remain the MTA's biggest expense, and MTA has already taken steps to trim their non-represented work force's costs. If the MTA is going to become a more efficient operation, some type of change will need to be made to the current represented workforce.

"Taken steps" to trim non represented cost's. And how much money was this saving?
In my depot, to make A.M. service, there are usually 3 Supt.s, 2 GS's and an AGM. How much is the Authority wasting on having these buffoons watch people work? How many in ALL the depots could be saved?
And exactly how much money is being spent on the hourlies? Has ANYONE seen the books???
Want to save money? Get rid of the B.S. sick control list and stop making employees see the doctor just to get a note stating they have a belly ache. And get rid of that bitch, Denise Washington and her whole crew!

STILL
LOL@BLOVIATING BOSSES

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 20 18:45:17 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Mr RT on Wed Jun 20 11:49:27 2012.

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You are correct,but in NYC you have to pay the previaling wage.

I'm not sure how prevailing wage law applies to this.

I have been for safety in the system vs. cost saving thru reduced staff,e.g. Conductor,Token Booth Clerk.

The rape at 21st-Van Alst a few years back pretty much dispels the notion that staff makes you inherently safer.

Cutting these folks is a drop in the bucket compared the way the MTA is very good at spemding & wasting money.

Actually, labor costs within the operating budget are the MTA's largest annual expense.

- How much is the rehab on the Brightion line costing,Fulton Street complex,etc.
- East Side Access is going to cost over $8 Billion dollars
- 2nd Ave Stubway is going to cost over $5.5 Billion dollars


Keep in mind:

1. As previously mentioned, these are two totally separate budgets. Capital expenditure comes largely through either FTA appropriations or state/agency borrowing. It cannot be used to pay operational expenses. Nor should it be. Borrowing to pay operating costs is bad buiness 101.

2. Rehab projects, such as Brighton, Sea Beach and the West End structural rehab are critical to keeping what we have operating. New construction projects are critical to keeping the ability to move people where they need to go as the population grows. New projects could even pay for themselves through increased land values and reduction of the use of less efficient modes of transportation.

The politians are also afraid to raise the fare while at the same time they dip into the money earmarked for the MTA and spend it on other things.

That's because the MTA is set up to be a whipping boy: pols can blame them for being 'out of touch' with the riding public when they want to raise fares while also slashing their other sources of funding. It's a no-win situation for the MTA, but that's what they're there for.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by merrick1 on Wed Jun 20 19:45:10 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Mr RT on Wed Jun 20 11:39:08 2012.

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I work for New York State. I was in the situation for a while where one of the guys who worked for me made more than I did. It didn't bother me. He had a lot more seniority than I did.

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Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}

Posted by MGL on Wed Jun 20 20:31:21 2012, in response to Re: Time for labor to sacrifice / MTA unions must do fair share — Lhota {Op-Ed}, posted by Ble-nimx on Tue Jun 19 14:24:13 2012.

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MTA is not the owner of 2 Broadway.

Labor Relations/Field Operations/RTO consists of 5 people.

Just thought you should know.

Michael

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