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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 12 08:31:55 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 11 08:19:14 2012.

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Exactly. and it's said to be a horrible death. The post-exposure shots are, from what i've heard not as painful as they once were, either. To paraphrase what you said, if this happened to me or a family member, I would definitely push for vaccination.

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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 12 08:32:35 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by WayneJay on Sun Jun 10 13:05:20 2012.

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IAWTP.

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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 12 08:42:11 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 11 08:21:29 2012.

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We could get into a real nature-channel riff here about how Alpha predators need a wide territorial range, and can never become more numerous than their prey...

Certainly, in Washington Sq Park, with all the hippies and old folks who feed the squirrels and pidgeons, the hawks may thrive for a long time though...

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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 12 08:45:42 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jun 10 14:38:48 2012.

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Railamn, where are you working these days? Is NETO with you?

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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jun 12 09:20:30 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 11 08:19:14 2012.

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Bottom line is that rabies is more than 99.99% fatal if not treated.



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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 09:30:55 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 12 08:42:11 2012.

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One oddity was that there were several feral cat colonies at Concourse Yard. The hawks never seemed to target them as prey. Of course they may have taken a kitten or two and we'd never have known.

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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Jun 12 22:37:32 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 10 18:18:27 2012.

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Rats eat damn near anything, whether man is around or not, they will survive, as they've done it long before man. And it is believed along with roaches, they can withstand radioactivity in the aftermath of a nuclear war (which when you consider the way things are internationally, especially with loosening ties with Russia and China, and the kooks in Iran and North Korea, I would not be surprised if the likelihood of this is not a matter of if, but when!!)

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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 13 07:46:51 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 09:30:55 2012.

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Since we're talking about this, when I saw that rat-kill last week, I was wondering if a hawk would ever make a play for a tiny dog...

While I have no expert knowledge on the subject (in fact, almost no knowledge!!), I think most predators are smart enough not to attack anything that can credibly fight back, or is guarded by something that can. Accordingly, I don't think they'd attack any dog other than the tiniest one, and only if said dog was unattended by a human. Similarly, I think they'd only grab a kitten if the mother wasn't around. I guess there's no way to be sure...

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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jun 13 07:57:21 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 13 07:46:51 2012.

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Just a few months ago, in Manhattan, there were two cases where red tailed hawks attempted to fly off with a Maltese and one instance a 10 lb domestic shorthair cat. The only reason why it didn't have them for meals was, in the first case, the dog was a little heavy for the bird to keep a hold of while flying, and it dropped the dog if I recall in Central Park, and the second one, the cat wriggled out of the hawk's hold and fell down to the street about a couple blocks away, but survived relatively unscathed. Hawks, eagles and other birds of prey will indeed try to tackle small dogs, even puppies and kittens.

And I can tell you, after watching a red tail pick off a pigeon right in front of me in a park next to my home, and sit there and start literally picking the feathers off and eating the pigeon alive right in front of me (I actually walked up to it, sat at a bench literally about 2 feet away, it was right at my feet basically). And guess what, that hawk didn't even seem remotely threatened by me or nervous. It just ate that pigeon right up, and carried away the rest of the carcass. It would have no bones, depending on how hungry it is (and no puns intended), to pick off a small animal right when it is attended by a person if it is hungry enough and on the hunt.

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Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jun 17 19:25:00 2012, in response to Re: Downtown (A) train rodent scratches a female straphanger @ 59 St, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 10 20:10:48 2012.

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Does not work here.

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