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Three years ago today

Posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012

Surprised no one mentioned this, my apologies if there's another thread but I didn't see one:

Last run of the R40 Slants took place. Train went from Inwood - 207th Street to Far Rockaway where it was taken out of service at 9:30 in the evening.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 23:21:13 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

Hehehe, yes we requested that the train make one last trip south so that it could be layed up in Pitkin Yard

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 13 01:45:47 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 23:21:13 2012.

I was unable to attend, and will never get to operate an R-40 Slant. :-(

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 13 02:05:51 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

That was a great trip! I had an awesome time riding between the cars through the flats

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jun 13 07:24:05 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

Sucks I didn't get a chance to run one on the A. They sure kicked ass on the "Q-Diamond" Express back in 2001, and on the "Nancy" and "Larry". Them the good ol' days!!!

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 13 07:33:16 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

Last run of the R40 Slants took place. Train went from Inwood - 207th Street to Far Rockaway where it was taken out of service at 9:30 in the evening.

No need to apologize, thank you for the remainder.

"The Book of Last Runs" lists the consist as (n)4425-4, 4415-4, 4398-9, 4257-6, 4433-2. My thanks to Mr Brian Camacho for e-mailing those numbers to me.

The R-40's were one of the most unique cars to run on the transit system and they originally came in three flavors; slant with no a/c, slant with a/c and straight end with a/c.

Larry, Redbird R33

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Mr. D - Type on Wed Jun 13 08:32:00 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jun 13 07:24:05 2012.

Yes, they sure did. Rode them daily for years.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 13 08:44:49 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

Depending what kind of mood I'm in, the Slants are my favorite car type. I sure miss them and hope to ride between the cars on them again in Railfan Heaven one day. Pre-GOH of course.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Jun 13 08:58:31 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 13 01:45:47 2012.

The R38s were BETTER, hands down. I liked them before GOH and even better after, brakes, accel, A/C etc. The slants were a novelty for anyone who hadn't seen them in the IND. Chances are you never would have operated a real slant unless it had ceiling fans and iron brake shoes. THose were really good on 4th Avenue Express without timers. Now its just last leg cars going to Fulton Street, just like my tens.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jun 13 12:49:54 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Jun 13 08:58:31 2012.

The irony is that on that date three years ago, the IND "A" line had now seen for the first time in its history a first and last day of service of a post-WWII "SMEE" rolling stock fleet each. In this case, it was with the R-10's brand new on that line for the first time on 11/20/1948, and then much later in 2009 with the slanted R-40's retiring off the road from that route. Almost like a full circle of sorts...

-William A. Padron
["Euclid"]


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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by bklyntekgeek on Wed Jun 13 12:56:41 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 23:21:13 2012.

Glad to have had my last chance to see the slants :)

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Wed Jun 13 13:55:50 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 13 07:33:16 2012.

I remember them on the 'E' and 'F' in their early days, without all the hardware at the slant ends that was there later. Quite a feeling watching out front with just that door between you and the tunnel - no hardware blocking or obstructing the view forward.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 14:09:35 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 13 01:45:47 2012.



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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 13 14:19:15 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Jun 13 08:58:31 2012.

The pre R-32s were head and shoulders above the R-38s and just about anything that came after.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jun 13 20:19:01 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 14:09:35 2012.

403 Forbidden. Try Again.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 13 20:43:06 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jun 13 12:49:54 2012.

The slants were a worthy successor to the immortal Thunderbirds. Never will forget that rocket ride on a slant Abbott up CPW on Easter Sunday in 1978. That train positively MOVED!!!

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 13 20:43:56 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by randyo on Wed Jun 13 14:19:15 2012.

Yeah, they were in a class by themselves.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 13 20:47:07 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Wed Jun 13 13:55:50 2012.

I also remember them on the Ethel and Fred lines. Even my sister liked them, and she is definitely not a subway buff.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by CJ on Wed Jun 13 22:37:05 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jun 13 12:49:54 2012.

It's almost as if fate wanted that to happen.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jun 13 23:01:16 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

I made the pilgrimage that day; did not get the final run, but was able to go from 34-Penn Station to 207th, then out to Lefferts and back to 207th.

Some memories of that delightful morning:














/wayne\


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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Jun 14 00:25:14 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 13 20:43:06 2012.

Agreed! Those slants definitely could haul *ss sort of like the 10s, but not as noisy:-).

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 14 00:34:55 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jun 13 23:01:16 2012.

Y'know they actually look better than the R-42s look now.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 14 00:37:09 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 13 20:47:07 2012.

Yeah, when I was a kid I always associated the slants with the E and F, esp. since the F was my home line.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 14 00:39:06 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jun 13 07:24:05 2012.

My last rides on them were on the B train, 2008. Ah, they gave me some good front and back window pics.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by chud1 on Thu Jun 14 04:39:57 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jun 13 23:01:16 2012.

A+ on these ictures of da slants.
Strength and Honor to Da Slants, for what they did in their runs echo's a eternity.
chud1

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 14 07:12:43 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

I had to bail on the way to the Rockaways but here's my last shot of a Slant in service at Canal St.



your pal,
Fred

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 14 14:04:19 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

I can still remmeber these on the E & F when I was little. The angled front and the loud noise were my first impressions of express trains...

Right up to the end, I could tell when a Slant was entering a station by the noise alone :)

My favorite Slant memory is actually from 1999, when I caught one on the J out of Broad Street in the late morning...I remember the letter "J" was a little different from what was used on the R42s...a smaller hook, so to speak...

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 14 14:06:33 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 13 20:43:06 2012.

That's how I remember 'em fromn the E & F...

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 14 14:36:45 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 13 20:43:56 2012.

That first sentence should have read pre GOH R-32s.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 14 18:32:41 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 14 00:37:09 2012.

This is the way I remember them.

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?5231
(sorry, I'm not good at the HTML to have it in the posting)

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 14 21:02:52 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jun 13 23:01:16 2012.

Did you manage to give each car an affectionate pat? You can bet I'll be doing that to each of the museum old timers next month.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Jun 14 21:55:22 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 14 21:02:52 2012.

Kind of. I gave #4415's No.7 door a kick, just like I did in 1997 when it got stuck at B'way Junction whilst in service on the n/b Larry.

When I got to 207th Street, the train went out of service. I waited and waited, and finally was told (erroneously) that it was OOS for the day.
It did manage to return later that afternoon - by that time I was on my way home.

wayne


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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Jun 14 22:01:25 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 14 14:04:19 2012.

R40 and R42 front end roll signs had two styles of "J". Some signs had the "short" curl and others had the "full" curl - like an umbrella handle. I never had the pleasure of seeing a Slant R40 on the "J" but I did see many an R40M. There were numerous examples of each style of "J" throughout the R40/R42 fleet.

wayne


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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Jun 14 22:06:03 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 14 18:32:41 2012.

Ah yes, the Slant look circa 1968. And I remember just as vividly the R-1/9 stock that's lurking on the opposite local track. Slants without A/C could be a real test in the summertime. Lots of track dust around the fans and inside the light diffusers. The 4350-4449 group was very popular during hot weather (as were the R40M's).

wayne


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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 15 03:16:38 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 14 18:32:41 2012.

Nah , I never remembered them that smooth and sleek, only with the all the stuff up front.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 15 07:28:57 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Jun 14 22:01:25 2012.

Interesting. I'd only noticed the full "umbrella curl" J on the 42s and 40Ms..

Maybe I paid more attention because of the uniqueness of seeing a Slant on that run...I wish I remembere the lead car #...I even remember it was in November or December, with gray skies (obviously, THAT was only visiable at street level).

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 15 22:09:09 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 14 00:37:09 2012.

I rode on them once when they were new and only because my sister wanted to ride on them. We took a slant Fred one stop from 34th to 42nd one Saturday afternoon. I flatly refused to take an Ethel from 42nd to 14th under any circumstances and as a consequence let more than one slant go by in favor of an R-10 Abbott.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 15 22:10:28 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Jun 14 22:01:25 2012.

They didn't call it the Curly for nothing. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Jun 16 00:28:17 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 14 18:32:41 2012.

YES!!! Remember seeing a dimwit riding one of those porches mid train. Loved the full size route sign.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 16 11:20:51 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

That slant experience....



your pal,
Fred

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by chud1 on Sat Jun 16 12:17:42 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 16 11:20:51 2012.

A+ on da picture.
chud1

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by 5119 on Sat Jun 16 19:58:23 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 14 14:36:45 2012.

And they were really fast!

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by randyo on Sat Jun 16 20:27:07 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by 5119 on Sat Jun 16 19:58:23 2012.

Yes, and they could stop on a dime and return 9 cents change!

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Jun 16 21:35:43 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 15 22:10:28 2012.

Why, SOITENLY!!!

-w-

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Jun 16 21:37:41 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 16 11:20:51 2012.

B or Q Diamond?

They were excellent on each.

Me and my UK buddy Simon rode a Slant "Q" (N motor #4315) northbound out of BB and we passed no fewer than THREE "D"s on the way to Prospect Park, back in 1999.

wayne


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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 16 21:40:02 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 13 07:33:16 2012.

Those ones with fans were brutally hot in the summer.

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 16 23:12:54 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 14 18:32:41 2012.

Linkt

This is one of the best train pics evar.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 17 00:03:49 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 14 18:32:41 2012.

The Fuschia field behind the F AND the little sign above the door

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 17 00:10:49 2012, in response to Three years ago today, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jun 12 22:37:18 2012.

So, Wayne, or anyone else who remembers, what did the lit signs above the storm door indicate?

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Re: Three years ago today

Posted by David on Sun Jun 17 00:23:53 2012, in response to Re: Three years ago today, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 17 00:10:49 2012.

Express or local operation.

David

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