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PATH signal trouble

Posted by merrick1 on Sun Jun 3 22:50:38 2012

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PATH was having signal trouble this afternoon. We were headed toward Newark. Coming into Journal Square the train tripped. The engineer recharged the train we pulled up one car length and tripped again. The conductor announced that everyone should hold on because each car was going to trip. We tripped and recharged several more times. We made the station stop and then tripped two more times leaving the station.

A friend of mine said that the train he was on did the same thing.

I've never seen this done on the subway. I guess they do things differently on PATH

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Re: PATH signal trouble

Posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 3 23:11:46 2012, in response to PATH signal trouble, posted by merrick1 on Sun Jun 3 22:50:38 2012.

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I've never heard of consists tripping mid-train on the NYC Subway before...

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Re: PATH signal trouble

Posted by Mr Railfan on Mon Jun 4 00:25:19 2012, in response to Re: PATH signal trouble, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 3 23:11:46 2012.

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Well the (F) train i was on tripped as we were pulling into 4 ave - 9th Street a couple of Months ago. We where given the OK by control to key by the signal before the station and after about 4-5 cars in we went BIE , presumably tripped by the signal we were Key-bying.

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Re: PATH signal trouble

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 00:44:27 2012, in response to Re: PATH signal trouble, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 3 23:11:46 2012.

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Why not? A stop arm can come up under a train.

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Re: PATH signal trouble

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jun 4 00:58:18 2012, in response to Re: PATH signal trouble, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 3 23:11:46 2012.

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Some systems only "arm" the trip on on the lead car. That also has the benefit of simplifying the signaling logic as the arm can pop as soon as the signal drops.

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Re: PATH signal trouble

Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 4 03:32:01 2012, in response to PATH signal trouble, posted by merrick1 on Sun Jun 3 22:50:38 2012.

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When a train on NYCT goes BIE and recharges which indicates it was tripped, the T/O is required by the rules to check the roadbed around and under the train and a sufficient distance behind to insure that the tripping was not caused by a passenger falling between cars or some person either a passenger or employee on the tracks for some other reason. Apparently, the PATH doesn't have the same requirement.

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Re: PATH signal trouble

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jun 4 07:38:08 2012, in response to Re: PATH signal trouble, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 3 23:11:46 2012.

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I've never heard of consists tripping mid-train on the NYC Subway before...

You should have been on my J train that Sunday at Essex Street a few years back, Second car stop up came up..

You know its a lot of "fun" going between cars trying to hook down a signal when yer 6'4...

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