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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by randyo on Tue May 29 02:39:53 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 28 22:39:24 2012.

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That may be true, but the transoms from the older cars would certainly have experienced more metal fatigue than newer ones so why replace a failing part with something that's likely to fail much sooner?

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 29 02:42:30 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by randyo on Tue May 29 02:39:53 2012.

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Precisely my point ... but then again as I saw back in my time, keeping the wigs happy by shuffling stuff around DOES make the paperwork happy. :(

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by monorail on Tue May 29 06:18:05 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by randyo on Tue May 29 02:39:53 2012.

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 09:15:32 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 28 12:58:47 2012.

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Is it possible, the older parts still had "life or mileage in them" after being pulled from service. This life was than tapped while newer original parts were pulled and stored as rebuilds or overhauls were made?

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 09:19:52 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 28 12:58:47 2012.

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Are the R-10 through R-62 trucks interchangeable?

Were trucks from those cars that were Deep-6ed recovered before the reef's were built?

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Ian Lennon on Tue May 29 09:21:34 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 09:19:52 2012.

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Knowing the MTA is infamous for stupid decisions, I doubt it.

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 09:39:37 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by merrick1 on Mon May 28 09:17:39 2012.

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The same situation exists in the Flatbush area.
When the IRT was built, ground water was drawn by thousands of home wells.
Once "City Water" from the Catskills, was introduced, the ground water level came back up.
This caused some track problems on the Nostrand Ave Line.

To bad the EPA and TA couldn't purify and bottle this groundwater and export it to Water deficient countries.

WIN WIN WIN

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 29 09:42:16 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 09:15:32 2012.

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Not from the R-32s.

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 29 09:46:05 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 09:19:52 2012.

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The trucks after the R-42 had tread brake units so they would not be useable as built but in most cases, a Transom form a General Steel truck or a transom from a Buckeye Truck would likely work in any other General Steel or Buckeye truck respectively. When trucks are torn down, it's fairly certain that when re-assembled, they are not mated with their former parts.

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 11:08:19 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Tue May 29 09:42:16 2012.

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Did there routes have less welded rail and more switches to cause excessive road wear?

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 11:10:15 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Tue May 29 09:46:05 2012.

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Thanks, I was on the wrong side of "Assume"

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 29 13:51:07 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 29 11:08:19 2012.

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Not necessarily.

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 29 13:54:27 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Sat May 26 09:16:14 2012.

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We're stuck with the consequences of a very stupid decision. At best, we can hope lessons are learned.

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 29 13:58:27 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 29 13:54:27 2012.

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We can only hope BUT given the over-inflated egos of both men, I doubt that any lesson has been learned.

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue May 29 14:01:50 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Railman718 on Sat May 26 08:57:23 2012.

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Happens at NJT also...

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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 29 14:05:16 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Tue May 29 13:58:27 2012.

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Just as a lark, what would be required to restore 80 of the stripped "enhanced" R44's to service? Since this is going to be a problem which will come up every summer until 2017 at the earliest .....

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