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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by WillD on Wed May 16 01:22:40 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue May 15 08:41:36 2012.

Does it all come down to the RFW for you? I get the sneaking suspicion you're not going to care for PATCO in the next year or two.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed May 16 01:38:28 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue May 15 08:41:36 2012.

through cars are a huge improvement, and are/were acceptable on many premier trains--various NY-Miami/Tampa, PRR splitting/joining in P'burgh,not to mention the Builder, NCL,and various Cities of...

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by chud1 on Wed May 16 04:42:18 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 23:29:47 2012.

somebodies rear end is on da line.
chud1.


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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by merrick1 on Wed May 16 06:51:41 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by WillD on Wed May 16 01:22:40 2012.

Are the PATCO rebuilds going to have enclosed full-width cabs?

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by chuchubob on Wed May 16 07:40:33 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by merrick1 on Wed May 16 06:51:41 2012.

Yes

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed May 16 08:27:22 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed May 16 01:38:28 2012.

Sitting in a detached Amfleet is better than sitting in the Pittsburgh station for four hours?? The real problem is that Amtrak can't do this move using only the crew and engines from the Cap.

Whatever, I might actually be interested in this service even if it means having to travel to Philly to take advantage of it, but these through cars in no way improves the service for PHL-CHI riders.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed May 16 08:34:25 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed May 16 00:27:08 2012.

Unless they went with Superliner baggage cars being the only baggage cars for Capitol Limited trainsets, the train would run with independent Pennsylvanian and Capitol Limited "sections", which would mean no diner or sightseer lounge for the Pennsylvanian folk. In theory if the Capitol Limited trainset was to use only Superliner baggage cars and placed its transition sleeper on the rear then it could integrate the two halves.

BTW I haven't heard anything about this through car plan before now. It seems awfully complicated if you ask me.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by R30A on Wed May 16 10:00:32 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by WillD on Wed May 16 01:20:56 2012.

They do sell the transdorm rooms 17-24 on nearly every train now. On a few of them, they still use a few of the high numbered rooms as crew accommodations, but on most trains 1-8 is enough for the crew.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by R30A on Wed May 16 10:02:03 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed May 16 08:34:25 2012.

There will be full connectivity between the two portions of the train.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 16 12:28:14 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed May 16 08:27:22 2012.

Sitting in a detached Amfleet is better than sitting in the Pittsburgh station for four hours??

Depends. What time will the changeover happen?

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed May 16 12:29:14 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed May 16 08:27:22 2012.

sure it does. if there is a through sleeper, one just snores... in coach, still better than the waiting room. The real question is how long between Pennsylvanian arrival and Capitol arrival. Given today's lineside fire delay of the Capitol, having through cars would have prevented the Pennsylvanian from leaving we/o the through riders.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 16 12:36:18 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 15 22:51:59 2012.

C'mon, you don't expect to give Amtrak riders the Penny Bridge treatment, do you? :-)


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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 16 12:37:01 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed May 16 12:29:14 2012.

Given today's lineside fire delay of the Capitol,having through cars would have prevented the Pennsylvanian from leaving we/o the through riders.

If a delay will be that severe, wouldn't it be better to just reroute people through DC?

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed May 16 13:13:16 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by R30A on Wed May 16 10:02:03 2012.

There "will be" nothing until the train actually starts running. Amtrak has proposed a lot of services that never get off the ground for one reason or another. If CP-WEST PITT were still in place the single level cars could be added to the front in both directions, but its not so Amtrak will need to have a second set of locomotives switch the through cars on at Pittsburgh.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed May 16 13:18:45 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by J trainloco on Wed May 16 12:37:01 2012.

the fire was in Alliance--ie west of Pittsburgh.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by R30A on Wed May 16 13:26:10 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed May 16 13:13:16 2012.

The plan is to add a switch.

The current intention is that this will happen when the first new Viewliner Sleepers arrive.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 16 13:58:22 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by aem7ac on Tue May 15 20:09:45 2012.



That's not the LSL.

As several others have pointed out, and as should have been pretty obvious, yes it is.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 16 14:30:55 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by WillD on Wed May 16 01:22:40 2012.

Why don't you pull out the dagger and then stick it back in and twist it just a bit more?

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 16:01:40 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed May 16 13:13:16 2012.

Amtrak has proposed a lot of services that never get off the ground for one reason excuse or another

Sorry; had to correct that.

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by CJ on Wed May 16 16:07:18 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 15 22:51:59 2012.

Don't know if this will matter, but here is some news on the status of the route east of NOL.

http://www.narprail.org/index.php/get-involved/action-alerts/1993-tell-your-congressmen-to-work-for-more-amtrak-restore-the-sunset-limited

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Re: Amtrak questions

Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu May 17 08:35:25 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak questions, posted by R30A on Wed May 16 13:26:10 2012.

Wonder if it will be interlocked or not...I'm assuming not as that would cost several million. Sucks that NS took out [url=http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=40.4452221&lon=-79.9938376&z=18&l=0&m=s&v=9]CP-WEST PITT[/url], Amtrak could have started the service any time it wanted at that point or gone to an outside operator like Iowa Pacific until the Viewliners arrived.

If that switch is restored then the single level cars will be placed on the front of the Cap and the rear of the Pennsylvanian.

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