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1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by El-Train on Mon Feb 20 21:30:35 2012

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Wow, it's been a while since I've been 'round these parts, board's looking pretty sparse unfortunately.

I have a couple of questions regarding the 1 line, hoping some of ya'll could answer them:

- Why do trains, specifically Uptown ones, wait at Chambers, TS and 96th St?

- Why is it that service, especially evening rush service, is so sparse. 5-6 minute spacing between trains mang. At 96th, there's almost always 3-4 Uptown expresses for every local, and the crowds just pile and pile like my college coursework. :) The trains are already packed coming into 96th so sometimes I have to wait for a following train Is it because there isn't enough rolling stock or track limitations?

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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 20 21:47:17 2012, in response to 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by El-Train on Mon Feb 20 21:30:35 2012.

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The trains are held there as they are the main gap stations to maintain the even spacing between trains as the trains can run ahead of schedule on the 1. Also during the rush hour the 1 runs a 5 min headway until 4-6pm where they run a 3 min headway, so during that time the 2 and 3 run a combined 2.5 min headway so it may seem like more trains when its really not.

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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by Jeromeline on Tue Feb 21 00:24:40 2012, in response to 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by El-Train on Mon Feb 20 21:30:35 2012.

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There is a 2 1/2 minute hold time built into the running time on the 1. Don't ask me why, because if I find out my head will probably explode (T/A reasoning is known to do that to people).

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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 21 01:51:33 2012, in response to 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by El-Train on Mon Feb 20 21:30:35 2012.

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I get held more at 137 Street - City College these days.

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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Feb 21 11:08:47 2012, in response to Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by Jeromeline on Tue Feb 21 00:24:40 2012.

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Maybe there are times where crowding increases dwell time, so by adding the hold, it will make the trains "on time" most of the time.

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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Feb 21 11:21:11 2012, in response to Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 20 21:47:17 2012.

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The trains are held there as they are the main gap stations to maintain the even spacing between trains as the trains can run ahead of schedule on the 1. Also during the rush hour the 1 runs a 5 min headway until 4-6pm where they run a 3 min headway, so during that time the 2 and 3 run a combined 2.5 min headway so it may seem like more trains when its really not.

^^^^Yeah what He said....^^^^


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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by El-Train on Tue Feb 21 13:57:35 2012, in response to 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by El-Train on Mon Feb 20 21:30:35 2012.

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Ah, I see. Thanks. I don't recall these wait times occurring when I'd ride the 1 as a kid and a teenager back in the '90's-early '00's, must be recent......or maybe my memory's bad.

I also hate how expresses slow down at the curves after Franklin St. and approaching/leaving Park Place. They should just pass through them at their regular express speed. :)

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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Feb 21 15:08:28 2012, in response to 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by El-Train on Mon Feb 20 21:30:35 2012.

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At 96th, there's almost always 3-4 Uptown expresses for every local

I thought the 1 runs more frequently. What you said happens with the Downtown Lex at Union Sq. after around 6pm.

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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by El-Train on Tue Feb 21 15:09:53 2012, in response to Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Feb 21 15:08:28 2012.

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I wish the 1 were as frequent as the 6. Then again I'm glad it isn't as packed as the 6. I hate the 68th St. station, really I do.

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Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?

Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Feb 21 21:48:20 2012, in response to Re: 1 Train annoyances...why?, posted by El-Train on Tue Feb 21 15:09:53 2012.

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The 6 has always less crowded cars. Something I usually take advantage of. It's harder to get a seat on the 1.

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