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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012 At Ronkonkoma taken perfectly legal here either taken behind the fence, or behind crossing gates, so here taken with the new Tamron Lens mounted on my Canon is Train 2053 with this 12 car set led by 9873:  And west of the station at the Pond Road Crossing:  And 9778 Trails:  Happy to get this, and just oh so amazed at the depth of the image this lens provides compared to the old lens! Enjoy folks! |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Feb 19 04:13:45 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. great pictures.chud1 |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 19 04:56:39 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. AWESOME! |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Feb 19 06:38:19 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. Neil, did you know Tamron is offering a $50 rebate on this lens, if purchased between 1/1/12 and 4/30/12? Google "Tamron rebate" for the form. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 07:42:27 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. 9874 looks banged up on the end.LIRR made a point of making sure these cars looked like hell (as bad as an M-1 at 35 y.o.) so they can get them replaced, and they appeared to have won their case with their debt-ridden, inept parent MTA. Spoiled brats. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 19 08:10:41 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. Nice stuff, Neil. The lens is a keeper.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Feb 19 10:41:28 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. Damn Neil........that first shot is definitely a winner!!! Awesome!! :-) |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Sun Feb 19 11:49:32 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 07:42:27 2012. Agreed. Over at Metro-North, the M-3a rebuilds are expected to be around till at least 2020. MN squeezes as much service out of their equiptment (remember the ACMU) as $$$ & TLC will allow |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Feb 19 12:09:22 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. Nice pictures. Is that the 18-270? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 19 13:27:24 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. Nice set. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 14:14:55 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Sun Feb 19 11:49:32 2012. The MTA capital plan is for MN to junk all their M-3A's as well. Even the M-6's are to go. The M-4 and M-6 ought to get an overhaul and go to NJT. They seem to dumb to know what to do about the aging Arrows.MN was just as ruthless as the LIRR about the M-1A's, except for 30 kept around for Yankee specials until there was no need for that. |
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Posted by PATHman on Sun Feb 19 16:23:33 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. First and third pics are nice |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Sun Feb 19 16:27:38 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 14:14:55 2012. "The MTA capital plan is for MN to junk all their M-3A's as well"That makes absolutely no sense since they spent serious $$$ rebuilding many M3 a's back in 2009/10 & spread the word that they would be on the property for at least another 10 yrs. As for the M-4s, insiders say that they were the worst set of M series cars ever produced. That series will be the first to go on the NH side. The'll still be M-2s over there when all the M-4s are gone. As for the scrapping of the M-6, that makes no sense since they still have youth on their side. But hey, we're dealing with the MTA. One of the last things to expect from them is commom sense. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 19 16:49:02 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by PATHman on Sun Feb 19 16:23:33 2012. Yeah, well I think the second and fourth pix are nice too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 19 16:50:20 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. taken perfectly legal here either taken behind the fence, or behind crossing gatesWhere would it be illegal? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 19 16:51:52 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Sun Feb 19 16:27:38 2012. "The MTA capital plan is for MN to junk all their M-3A's as well"That makes absolutely no sense since they spent serious $$$ rebuilding many M3As back in 2009/10 and spread the word that they would be on the property for at least another 10 years You're asking the MTA to make sense. It's like expecting NJT to make sense, or SEPTA, or the MBTA, or . . . |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 19:13:51 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Sun Feb 19 16:27:38 2012. They'll just say they are technologically obsolescent, like the PA4, (you know, like Win 3.1), and away they go. I have heard the opposite about the M-4, considered better than the M-6.All but the oldest 80 M-2's got an overhaul, made a huge difference, so they perform better than the M-4. Just overhaul the M-4, it's time. |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:19:26 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 19 16:50:20 2012. If I was on the other side of the fences! I took the shots through the fence! Most people would think those shots were on railroad property, but I took the shouts through the fence! |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:19:52 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 19 13:27:24 2012. Thanks! |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:20:08 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Feb 19 12:09:22 2012. 70-300! |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:20:48 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Feb 19 10:41:28 2012. Thanks Paul! This new lens created awesome depth from the very first shots I took! Glad I got it! |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:21:17 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 19 08:10:41 2012. Thanks for the help in the suggestion Fred! I'm very happy! |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:22:32 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Dave on Sun Feb 19 06:38:19 2012. Yep, already sent it! Thanks for the heads up Dave! |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:22:46 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 19 04:56:39 2012. Thanks! |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:22:59 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by chud1 on Sun Feb 19 04:13:45 2012. Thanks! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 19 20:23:39 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. excellent shots |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:30:25 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 19 20:23:39 2012. Thanks Salaam! |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Feb 19 21:17:21 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 20:20:08 2012. That's a beauty - I have the 18-270; picked it up about a year ago, when they had the $150 rebate. Use it not only for trains but also at concerts. Fantastic sharpness. Good luck with your new toy. |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Feb 19 21:45:41 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Feb 19 21:17:21 2012. Thank you Joe, much appreciated! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Feb 20 16:10:08 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 14:14:55 2012. If the LIRR wants to expand electrification, they should keep the M3s for a while. It would be a good idea to electrify the Central Branch. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Feb 20 19:50:57 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Feb 20 16:10:08 2012. Hmm if they are replaced cause of problems with M3 fleet , why would they keep and maintain a troubled fleet for a electrification that may never materialize ?? |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Feb 20 22:02:27 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Feb 20 19:50:57 2012. And anyways, if you electrify the Central, you would have to electrify east to Patchogue, so you know how much that will cost???? To a point nobody, even the US government can't afford, lol! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Feb 22 06:02:56 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Feb 20 22:02:27 2012. Never say never! They could electrify the Central branch one day! |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Feb 22 11:37:39 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Feb 20 22:02:27 2012. Not to go too far off topic, if the MTA was able to print money, the first branch to get 3d rail would be the Port Jefferson.But back to the real world, I don't think you'll see so much as one foot of extended electrification anywhere on the LIRR, in our lifetimes anyway. Over at Metro North, the suits quietly admit that it was an expensive mistake to run 3d rail from North White Plains to Brewster North (Southeast). Over on the Hudson line where 3d rail ends around Croton-North, there's a set of bomb shoreliner coaches & Genesis locomotives maintaining 95+% on time reliability between Poughkeepsie & GCT while handeling quadruple ridership in the past 20yrs or so. Plus correct me if im wrong, every multiple unit car is considered an electric locomotive & thus subject to more rigorous FRA inspections than any shoreliner. Translation, more down time. Not to mention the Hudson line dosen't have weather related (snow) service disruptions. Point being, 3d rail is an expensive & in most cases an unneccessary "improvement" |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Feb 22 19:08:35 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Feb 22 11:37:39 2012. Over at Metro North, the suits quietly admit that it was an expensive mistake to run 3d rail from North White Plains to Brewster North (Southeast)Heh, I railfanned that line on Monday! Long ride though, It felt weird riding M7s in such a rural area, as the other areas they run (Both on LIRR & MNR) is kinda heavily populated. I never knew 3rd rail north of NWP was done by MN, I always thought it was like that since the NYC Central days or whatever railroad ran the Harlem line before MN did. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Feb 22 19:09:32 2012, in response to M3 In Yo Face, posted by Neil Feldman on Sat Feb 18 21:11:24 2012. I love these trains, nice photos! |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 19:20:11 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Feb 22 11:37:39 2012. Actually, they have prioritized Yaphank as next to get electrified some day.(Translation, more down time) Not that simple. Factor in MDBF. It's about 40K miles on a P32DM and 400K miles on an M7. Only NJT is paranoid of FRA inspections and buys electric locos, hardly a model operation and customer satisfaction down to 4.0 on a scale up to 10. Even their stinkin' bus division is about 6.1. (Point being, 3d rail is an expensive & in most cases an unneccessary "improvement" ) You will find NO ONE out of 7,000 passengers boarding at Ronkonkoma itself, or any station along the way to Carle Place, electrified between 1972 and 1987, would agree with you. Furthermore, the dual-modes and bi-level cars have completely failed to stem the ridership diversions from the Port Jeff and South Shore. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 19:22:30 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Feb 22 19:08:35 2012. Brewster was electrified in the mid-1980's.It did not give them a one-seat ride, they already had it with FL'9s, and awful service. |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Feb 22 19:41:09 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 19:20:11 2012. "the dual-modes and bi-level cars..."Apples & oranges compared to the Genesis & Bomb shoreliner equiptment used on the MN Hudson line. Conversly, nobody is clamoring for 3d rail extensions over there. What they use is workin out just fine. Customer satisfaction is at an all time high, on the Hudson line anyway. |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Wed Feb 22 20:09:50 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Feb 22 19:09:32 2012. Thanks! |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Feb 22 20:13:07 2012, in response to Re: M3 In Yo Face, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 19:22:30 2012. correct electrification was started in 1983 and finished in 1985.I doubt todays service could be done with shoreliners , Brewster dispatches around 85 electric cars per rush hour plus turnarounds and plus northbound Diesel deadheads. |
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