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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 28 06:59:27 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 27 17:21:43 2012. First things first:We need the platforms lengthened if possible on the Eastern Division to 600 feet for 10-car trains, especially along the Nassau Street Line since you could still eventually have an SAS branch operate through there. Otherwise, if you want to build longer platforms on those that are currently 600 feet, I would go to 750 feet since that would allow for trains that are either 10 cars @ 75 feet (for 750 feet trains) or 12 cars @ 60 feet each (for 720 feet). |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:32:44 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by J trainloco on Fri Jan 27 17:47:46 2012. Varying the F routing when the V/M doesn't run is a good idea, like when the N goes via Tunnel when the R goes to sleep, but that is just a night. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:33:58 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by J trainloco on Fri Jan 27 17:50:09 2012. I have been on E train when it goes local, They lose 8 minutes, 4 minutes on either side of Roosevelt. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:35:40 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 28 04:57:16 2012. The weekness is that 63rd Street train skip Queens Plaza, and have a bad transfer to the Lex. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:38:00 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 28 06:59:27 2012. Strething Metro Ave 120 foot would be quite an engineering job. Then you would have to do down to Chambers St to handle an emergency reroute |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:39:59 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 28 05:04:33 2012. Why did they pick the E to go Archer ? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jan 28 11:46:54 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:38:00 2012. Or put in extra platforms and tracks at Essex St. in the former Trolley terminal, if it has to become an emergency "Terminal" to turn trains and discharge passengers.Platform extension to bring all 480 Ft. platform to at least 600 Ft.would be best for universal conformity. |
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Posted by PATHman on Sat Jan 28 13:49:18 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:35:40 2012. +1Too bad you're the only person with common sense. |
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Posted by Outside the Box on Sat Jan 28 13:59:30 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by SLRT on Fri Jan 27 16:21:27 2012. Or 9 car trains on Canarsie Line. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jan 28 14:55:07 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Fri Jan 27 19:10:20 2012. I use/used the Queens Blvd line and I am telling you that it is far better than it was before.It is not perfect, and it never will be. The only way the E and F continuing through 53st after the connector opened was: -If they had a service pattern that avoided having Queens Blvd local riders transfer twice to get to the G -If they could somehow get back to 40 TPH without delays on the Queens Blvd express, which would require eliminating timers and a far more aggressive approach to door holding. They actually *TRIED* this, in the Sunday morning experiment where the G ran to 179 (could not turn at 71st), the V-alike ran through 63rd, and the E and F kept their express / 53st configuration. It was a DISASTER, too many trains all over the goddamn place... and this was *without* passengers to hold doors (the Sunday morning crowd is not representative of a rush hour loading). By having the E and F only share a track for two stations, the 5PM conga line went away. By booting the G off of Queens Blvd and putting the V (later M), all the transferring at Roosevelt (which had the station dangerously overcrowded) went away. By removing the 6th av / Queens Express from 53st, people can reliably *fit on trains* at 53rd/lex. Since almost the ENTIRE BOARD is either indifferent or thinks you are wrong, there really isn't a need to argue it with you... you're just in your own little world, la. la. la. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Sat Jan 28 14:59:50 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:35:40 2012. ...As if we never realized that in the beginning. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 15:28:08 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Sat Jan 28 13:49:18 2012. Someday if we make the M run all day on weekends like the C, maybe then swap the F & M. But right now, we cannot deny Roosevelt Island service on weekends and force them to rely only on that stupid tram and a bus to Manhattan.57th & 6th - there's the BMT a block west, not a traumatic big deal if they weer to lose over night service. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sat Jan 28 21:33:17 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Jan 28 00:16:02 2012. How long is the tail track east of Myrtle-Wycoff? Is it long enough to hold more than one train? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 28 22:20:31 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Jan 28 00:16:02 2012. My point- they need a few more! Not only for the kids going to school, but also for the transfers from the "G" at Metropolitan/Lorimer and the large crowds at Bedford Ave. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 28 22:21:32 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by N6 Limited on Sat Jan 28 21:33:17 2012. I think it can only hold one train. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 01:04:30 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:38:00 2012. That would be part of this actually:My plan would be to make all Eastern division platforms on the (L) and at least from Metropolitan to Broad Street on the (J)/(M)/(Z) 600 feet since the platforms between Canal and Broad may need to be extended anyway to accommodate SAS trains via Chrystie at a later date. The former Myrtle El stations that are part of the remaining portion of that El I would be extending anyway to prepare that branch for one of two new lines: Either a rebuilt Myrtle Avenue El that would be a new (W) train that would run the old route to Navy Street and then go underground to join the Montauge Street/Broadway Line OR a new Myrtle-Brighton line ("Black V") from Metropolitan Avenue to Coney Island that would also involve expanding all of the existing Franklin Avenue Shuttle platforms to 600 feet AND rebuild that stretch back to two tracks (while making Franklin Avenue a through station) that can be a 24/7 local line from Metropolitan Avenue-Coney Island (with the (B) becoming a second local to Coney Island on weekdays) while the (Q) becomes a 24/7 express line to Brighton Beach. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 02:12:33 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 28 05:04:33 2012. Then you'd have the same problem with the F that you do with the E at Parsons-Archer that likely would require the F to stage some trains at 179th in rush hours. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 02:32:55 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jan 28 14:55:07 2012. Obviously, there are reasons why what was done was, though of course there will always continue to be complaining by some, especially those who feel the (G) should go back to running to 71st-Continental like it used to. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 02:35:40 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by vfrt on Fri Jan 27 16:46:32 2012. Plus, is it REALLY necessary?Yes, it would be nice to have that done, but it would simply be too costly. It needs to be remembered that 53rd/Lex was a much different area back when the station was built (the CitiGroup Center didn't open until 1977, the Lipstick Building until 1986 and many other buildings there now were not until the 1960's). |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 02:36:44 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Jan 28 00:25:21 2012. Absolutely, but that area is also quite residential. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 02:40:46 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Fri Jan 27 23:29:06 2012. That change (M via 6th Avenue and combining it with the V) was the one good thing that came out of the service cuts because that was a long-needed change that made sense.Shame there isn't a way to on overnights and weekends have the (M) be able to terminate at West 4th without disrupting the (D), or I would be looking at doing that if it's not feasible to send the line to 71st-Continental 24/7 so (M) riders can at least have a one-seat ride for access to the Lexington (when the Uptown 6 transfer at Bleecker/Broadway-Lafayette is complete) 6th and 8th Avenue lines in Manhattan.. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 02:43:26 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jan 27 21:10:36 2012. Shame they tore down the other tracks at Atlantic Avenue, or that could then have been used to short-turn (L) trains and/or have a Broadway-Brooklyn line operate to Rockaway Parkway and have the (L) start at Atlantic Avenue (with a cross-platform transfer between the two lines at Atlantic Avenue). Very short-sighted in that regard. |
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Posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 03:31:59 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jan 28 14:55:07 2012. The only thing I will admit is that prior to 2001, the E and F were backed up on Queens Blvd during rush hour. Now, there is less congestion on the express tracks. I still think it's unfair that the F line was the sacrificial lamb. The F was the 3rd busiest line in the system. Hundreds of thousands of people relied on it. To remove the F from a major corridor is ludicrous. I get so pissed off when I have to pass up F trains on Queens Blvd. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 29 04:30:32 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 03:31:59 2012. its always "I" or "ME" with "you".since you get on at JAMAICA CENTER E/J/Z..Whats wrong with this picture? take your time.. |
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Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sun Jan 29 08:40:38 2012, in response to MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jan 26 21:16:38 2012. what they need to do is make the system faster.Remove some timers. they have alot of timers in this system. the timers are slowing down this system too much and they have timers in some unnecessary places. during the rush hour the 4,5,6 train don't go more than 15-20MPH going downtown. MTA took the Rapid away from Rapid Transit. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jan 29 10:58:54 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 01:04:30 2012. The grade crossing at Broadway and myrtle will need to be eliminated.How? Begin a staggered ramp-up of two tracks along Broadway to a station above the current 2 island 3 track station. Staggering will allow the center and local tracks to each have access to the upper track ramps. The upper island and tracks will be curving towards the Myrtle Ave line, crossing both lower platforms at the mid and western portions. Gradual enough to allow for at least two stairs and one elevator between each lower platform. 75 Ft. trains will now have access to the Myrtle Ave El. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 29 11:03:33 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jan 29 10:58:54 2012. 75ft.trains have always had access to the myrtle ave EL from myrtle ave& b`way to metropolitan ave. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jan 29 11:30:15 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 29 11:03:33 2012. Yes , but that "S" curve restricted two trains traveling in opposite directions at the same time.That is what I have been led to believe, here on this board by "Those in the Know" |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 12:19:10 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jan 29 11:30:15 2012. Yes, but obviously, some of that could be reconfigured to allow for 75 foot cars on the Myrtle El portion more easily if it were part of a rebuilt Myrtle Avenue El and/or a Myrtle-Brighton line that would connect the Myrtle El to the Franklin Avenue El, rebuild the Franklin El section to two tracks and 500' platforms (and make Franklin Avenue itself a through station) and making full use of all tracks at Prospect Park since the line would be a 24/7 local to Coney Island, replacing the (Q) that would become a 24/7 express to Brighton (while the (B) would become a second Brighton local to Coney Island on weekdays.As part of getting rid of the grade crossing at Myrtle Avenue, the Myrtle-Brighton extension would include a new flying junction for the J/M/Z station from the current Myrtle El and also would allow for a connection to the Broadway-Brooklyn line from the Myrtle-Brighton line so when necessary, the (Q) could be sent that way (then via the (M) in Manhattan and possibly Queens) when there is a G.O. like the current one that has the (Q) terminating at Prospect Park (which is also why I'd be looking to make all platforms in that part of the Broadway-Brooklyn line 600 feet). |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Jan 29 14:41:27 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 03:31:59 2012. And with the reduction in congestion, that's not saving you any time either? |
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Posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 15:12:53 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 29 04:30:32 2012. I do have selfish reasons for wanting the F on 53rd. I live near bus lines that serve both Jamaica Center and 179 Street, so I essentially have a choice of the E or F train. Back in the day, I preferred the F train over the E train since the F used R46's instead of R32's and I didn't have to pass through bum and hoodlum-infested Jamaica Center. When the F was rerouted to 63rd, I lost that option. Many of the places I like to hang out in the city are located on the East Side of Manhattan. I was forced to take the E train that I utterly despised. Over the years, R32's were removed from the E so that assuaged me. I still hate the fact that when I'm at 71st/Continental and I need to get to Lexington/53rd, I have to pass up F trains. And please, save me the "the local is almost as fast as the express" nonsense. The most annoying feeling in the world is being on a train that makes every stop when you see an express track. |
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Posted by Outside the Box on Sun Jan 29 15:46:28 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:39:59 2012. It might be due to the F train route length. The 4 tracks 2 platforms at 179 and high switching capacity there allows for the F to buffer for and make up for delays more easily than if it went to Archer Ave. |
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Posted by Outside the Box on Sun Jan 29 16:04:30 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sun Jan 29 08:40:38 2012. I think they're still spooked by the collision on the Williamsburg Br and the derailment north of Union Sq. That said, they need to access whether the current setup is overkill. If they could speed it up, it would be appreciated.OTOH, doing so would remove some of the rationale for going CBTC on the rest of IRT. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 29 16:13:12 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 28 22:21:32 2012. It can hold 2 trains. When I was a Tw/M at Myrtle, there were 2 trains stored there. They were put in at the start of the AM rush and laid up after the AM rush. They put in again for the PM rush and laid up after the PM rush for the next day's service. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 29 16:13:41 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 02:43:26 2012. I agree. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Jan 29 16:36:14 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jan 29 11:30:15 2012. I thought the problematic S curve was the one at Marcy, not Myrtle/Broadway. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Jan 29 16:38:22 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 02:40:46 2012. Have the M turn at Queens Plaza, nights and weekends then. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jan 29 17:52:25 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Jan 29 16:38:22 2012. I second this idea! There is a center track (D5) just east of the Queens Plaza station! |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Jan 29 17:52:54 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 28 07:35:40 2012. So what? The problem with Queens Blvd is that too many people are riding the expresses, while there's room on the locals. The current service plan gives riders incentive to take the local.If the super express were ever built, then you could have 2 expresses through 53rd. Until then, despite PATHman's dogged insistence that everyone on this board and in the MTA is an idiot, sending both expresses through 53rd is a bad idea. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jan 29 19:40:12 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Jan 29 16:36:14 2012. I don't believe so.We'll have to get some informed opinions. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 29 21:02:05 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jan 29 10:58:54 2012. how can you do that,without taking property along Broadway and Myrtle? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jan 29 21:12:24 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 29 21:02:05 2012. With all of the BMT platform lengthenings over the years, you are telling me that they cannot add to the western end of the existing ones at B'way/Myrtle? You know, like they did over Mcdonald Ave for 10 car IND trains! |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Sun Jan 29 21:22:50 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 15:12:53 2012. Leave your house 10-15 minutes early.Problem solved. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 29 22:18:20 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Fri Jan 27 19:25:59 2012. They DO have a choice..The M QB LOCAL to Forest Hills via 53rd The E QB EXPRESS to Jamaica via 53rd The F QB EXPRESS to Jamaica via 63rd The R QB LOCAL to Forest Hills via 60th THATS a choice of many. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 29 22:23:45 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 15:12:53 2012. and here it is I though you were made of sterner stuff. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Jan 29 22:54:21 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 15:12:53 2012. I preferred the F train over the E train since the F used R46's instead of R32's and I didn't have to pass through bum and hoodlum-infested Jamaica CenterSo do what my bourgeois F-train riding ass did and deal with switching trains*. Even though the E was technically my home line at one point, I switched for the F at Union Turnpike, and I'd get a seat on the Q83 LTD while secretly laughing at the E train riders who boarded at Jamaica Centre. Yeah, there were some long waits at Parsons & Hillside for the bus**, but it was well worth it. *I preferred the R46 as the seat layout was more conducive to napping, and while the AC was never as good a the R32s, the sound-proofing is much better on the R46... **At JC, I could choose between the Q4 and the Q83. I preferred the Q83 as it was faster and avoided the sketchy dudes at the corner with Linden... |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Jan 29 23:01:34 2012, in response to Re: Expanding Eastern Division Platforms to 600 Feet, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 29 01:04:30 2012. My plan would be to make all Eastern division platforms on the (L) and at least from Metropolitan to Broad Street on the (J)/(M)/(Z) 600 feetOr the Eastern Division can be like every other subway in the first world and actually go OPTO and run more trains before spending petro dollars on platform extensions... |
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Posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 23:43:50 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by LRG5784 on Sun Jan 29 21:22:50 2012. incorrect(you knew that was going to be my response) |
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Posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 23:44:43 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Jan 29 22:54:21 2012. Finally, someone who understands my point. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Jan 30 00:01:36 2012, in response to Re: MTA chief Joseph Lhota: We need to expand subway stations, posted by PATHman on Sun Jan 29 23:44:43 2012. Finally, someone who understands my point.I understand why you switched over the F in the pre-R-160 period, but having to switch platforms at Roosevelt or Union Turnpike isn't the end of the world, and it's something that I've become accustomed to doing over nearly a decade of riding the subway on my own. |
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