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Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 30 16:59:13 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. Catch Bus To Corona |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 17:20:02 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 30 16:59:13 2011. The Q32 bus doesn't go that far. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 17:48:37 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 17:20:02 2011. Q32 to Q66? |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Sep 30 18:00:04 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. 'Here's to a smooth transition over the next few years!' hahahahahahahahhahahah |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Sep 30 18:19:56 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. Yay, spending hundreds of millions of dollars to reduce capacity. Who's getting a kickback again? |
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Posted by mike cruz on Fri Sep 30 18:34:11 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. NO smooth transition G! If that happens then it signals |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 30 19:02:50 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Sep 30 18:19:56 2011. 
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Sep 30 20:09:21 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 30 19:02:50 2011. You'd better believe it! |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Sep 30 20:19:57 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 30 19:02:50 2011. D'Amato is chairman of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA), a nonprofit organization set up to help protect and fight for the rights of poker players in the United States. Part of the PPA's mission is to protect the right of poker players to play online. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 20:45:31 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by mike cruz on Fri Sep 30 18:34:11 2011. It signals an abrupt, unexpected end to another SubChat post? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:09:14 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 17:20:02 2011. Regular (route) buses are not part of the equation. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:10:34 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. "Here's to a smooth transition over the next few years!"As smooth as it was on the Canarsie Line. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:11:50 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 30 19:02:50 2011. First Veolia and new this.The man is batting 1.000. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 30 21:18:37 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Sep 30 20:19:57 2011. And in the boardroom. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 30 21:19:40 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:11:50 2011. He has a rich legacy going way back, including "Yonkers Construction." Remember THOSE clowns? :(Supersteel, Bombardier, and of course good old Alstom ... |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 21:24:29 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:09:14 2011. If you wanted to go from anywhere near 42nd Street in Midtown to anywhere along the 7 line between Queensboro Plaza and Jackson Heights, the Q32 bus is the only way to go. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 21:25:17 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:09:14 2011. If the 7 is not running in Manhattan, and you wanted to go from anywhere near 42nd Street in Midtown to anywhere along the 7 line between Queensboro Plaza and Jackson Heights, the Q32 bus is the only way to go. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:43:07 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 21:24:29 2011. It will take much longer.The way to go is to take the 7 to wherever the terminal will be and take the bustitution which will be stopping at #7 line stations only. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:44:23 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 21:25:17 2011. You take the N or extended Q to Queensboro Plaza and change for the #7. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Oct 1 03:30:21 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 17:20:02 2011. It's a shame that it's 2011 & there's still no bus that runs on Roosevelt for its entirety. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Oct 1 07:07:07 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 30 16:59:13 2011. Yep, a lot of awesome shuttle bus G.O's will spur from this! |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sat Oct 1 07:10:14 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. Next weekend is littered with GOs. The worst weekend for a 7 shutdown, which is usually one of those things that limits work throughout NYC.-No 1 north of 168 -No 2 Franklin-Flatbush -This 7 GO -No A south of Howard Beach -No L Bway Jct-8 Av |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Oct 2 00:06:40 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. Cool. |
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Posted by Thunderbolt on Sun Oct 2 21:04:43 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. GAH. I don't need any of this new-tech crap. Roll back the base fare to 2.00. <:[ |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Oct 2 22:30:24 2011, in response to CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 30 15:59:17 2011. They said CBTC would lead to faster trains that can run closer together, has this been true on the Canarsie line? |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun Oct 2 22:42:05 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by N6 Limited on Sun Oct 2 22:30:24 2011. When the signal removal is complete (hence the reason for the outages recently) the frequency will improve. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Oct 3 07:06:55 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by N6 Limited on Sun Oct 2 22:30:24 2011. They said CBTC would lead to faster trains that can run closer together, has this been true on the Canarsie line?NO!!! CBTC nor any other signal system does not increase the service level capacity. That is governed by acceleration, service and emergency braking rates, dwell times at stations and geometry at the terminal stations. The signal system alters none of these. The Canarsie Line ran 24 tph at one time. They are struggling to maintain 17 tph today. The 24 tph is limited by the terminals. Without terminal constraints, the intermediate station capacity is a nominal 40 tph for most lines. The Flushing Line ran 36 tph before the 1970's cutbacks, with multiple terminals at the Flushing/Corona end. The Third Ave El ran 42 tph with multiple terminals at both the uptown and downtown ends. Train speed, or more precisely end to end running time, is more a function of acceleration, service braking rate and station dwell time. Route architecture and schedules, designed to minimize merging conflicts are other factors. The signal system does not play any part in this. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Oct 3 08:21:41 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 30 21:10:34 2011. Na, this time the MTA know what it did wrong. First of all, all the signal that are on the line will remain unlike on the L line. This is how the CBTC system for the 7 line and the rest of the systerm will be from now on. They found out if the CBTC goes down on the L line, the line will shout down since there no back up signel system. On the 7 line the system will all flash excpet when a train has to run in Bypass mode. The L line Bypass mode it not even a opction anymore. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 3 12:44:04 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Oct 3 07:06:55 2011. I'm curious, how will CBTC handle express service and track switching? |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Oct 3 18:55:53 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 3 12:44:04 2011. It sould line up train automatily. The train is giving its call letter by the computer base on the Schudle it has. So the Switchs and Signal sould all be set up for that train as it comes up to them. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 3 20:14:12 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Oct 3 18:55:53 2011. Oh ok , I see now. So if they implement this system wide, it should be able to handle all the merging and diverging of subway routes on the fly?In the case where the switch/crossover after Queens Plaza broke, and the M and F had to swap northbound routes to Queens, would that be able to be programmed into the system? |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Oct 3 20:46:18 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 3 20:14:12 2011. Yes the system would be able to change on the fly. Command Center will be able to do it. They do it with ATS in the A divs. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Oct 3 21:32:13 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 21:24:29 2011. The N from Times Square or 59th and Lex (reached via 4/5/6 from Grand Central) to Queensboro Plaza for the 7 which is running east of there seems like the obvious route, and is surely what the MTA will suggest. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Oct 3 23:37:19 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 3 12:44:04 2011. CBTC does not handle switching. They need track circuits, integrated with CBTC to handle switching. They also need track circuits to detect broken rails. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Oct 4 10:17:01 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Oct 3 08:21:41 2011. The L line will have to be re-CBTC'd and maybe even re-signaled anyway. The CBTC system for the 7 and later conversions will be incompatible with the L. And Siemens won't supply those proprietary parts and circuits for long. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 10:53:51 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Oct 4 10:17:01 2011. That system was a failure looming from the start if you ask some, but Kalikow and his cronnies OK'd it anyway..Especially if they have to "re-do it" They could have did much better.... |
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Posted by mike cruz on Tue Oct 4 11:59:06 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 30 20:45:31 2011. WOW I totally forgot to end that post! hahahaha I think I wanted to say it signals the eventual end of people runnin trains. (years later of course) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:35:16 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Oct 3 23:37:19 2011. Did you read NETO Post? |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:38:54 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Oct 4 10:17:01 2011. The L line will never be re-signaled. The L line in going to be in a world of there own with there own set of cars. The 2 system will never be compatible. The one thing I do see are the R160a's for are needed for the L line not being able to run on the J/M every again, but buy the time these line get CBTC the R143 and R160 might be getting replaced. NO one know unless you have travled in to the ahead in time. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:40:51 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:38:54 2011. NO one know unless you have travled in to the ahead in timeGive me a Second Rob... (Walks into Trans-dimensional Portal) |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:41:48 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:40:51 2011. Let me know if the winning Lotery number for a very Big pot. Thanks. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:43:12 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:41:48 2011. (Walks out of Portal)Um You arent going to like the Future Bro... No More Rail Fan Windows!!!!! (Screams) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 4 12:43:28 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:38:54 2011. The L line will never be re-signaled....NO one know unless you have travled in to the ahead in time. You just contradicted yourself. And if the latter was only referring to the R-160 cars, then your first statement is untrue. You have no idea if the L will ever be resignaled, but based on recent history, it is likely that IT WILL BE resignaled at some point in the future. So you are wrong. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:46:25 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:41:48 2011. BTW Rob do you smell Something? |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:48:03 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:46:25 2011. Ya I do. Now were my numbers. This can all go away if I win 45Mil somewere down the raod. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:51:46 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:48:03 2011. Ok just wanted to make sure, maybe the stench will leave soon....Now back on Topic after a brief comedy Break.. I doubt they Will re invest Effing Millions to redo something that should have been right in the 1st Place anyway.. As for your Numbers i went too far back to know about them sorry.. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:57:13 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:51:46 2011. Dame you with the numbers. I need them. I would have giving the a few Mils. Wait a Minit you have them and just want the Jackpot all to your self, you dirty bastard.As for the L line, your wight why wold they put more money that they got working right at last. It would cost them so much money to put back signals. HO wait your going to give the MTA the money from the Jackpot your going to win and have them rename the line the "RailMan Specail." |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:59:54 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 12:57:13 2011. HO wait your going to give the MTA the money from the Jackpot your going to win and have them rename the line the "RailMan Special."Im gonna make you the Superintendent of the Line, what are Friends For? |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 4 13:00:58 2011, in response to Re: CBTC installation begins on the Flushing Line, posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:59:54 2011. I want $350,000 a year. OK. |
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