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Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 19 13:06:50 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 12:55:26 2011. nor do i have to.bring back the 70's..keep bumpin'! |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Aug 19 13:15:20 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 19 13:06:50 2011. +1 |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 19 13:25:33 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by LRG5784 on Fri Aug 19 13:15:20 2011. Exactly let him keep it up. Makes me laugh more. Bumpty bump to the bump.. |
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Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 14:29:03 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 19 13:06:50 2011. You have to if you believe you were not incorrect. If you believe you were incorrect then a reply noting that would be nice. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Aug 19 14:30:42 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 10:05:27 2011. Probably an incorrect reference to our very own poster tunnelrat.--Mark |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 15:16:24 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Aug 19 14:30:42 2011. Thanks, Mark! Good to see you're still around. By the way, there's some stuff I've been meaning to e-mail you... |
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Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street) |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Aug 19 16:32:51 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 19 13:25:33 2011.  Line: 3rd Avenue El...Location: 149th Street... Photo by: Jack E. Boucher...Collection of: Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division...Date: 12/1973...Notes: Bumping block of easterly (northbound) track, general view is southeast between 148th and 147th St...from nycsubway.org |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 16:35:38 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Aug 19 16:32:51 2011. I wonder whether there were any remains of the upper level in later years... |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Aug 19 19:33:33 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 16:35:38 2011. wonder whether there were any remains of the upper level in later years...Upper level ? That structure was demolished around 1977, four years after closure. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 19:41:28 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Aug 19 19:33:33 2011. Upper level ?Yes, when it ran through to Manhattan, the express was doubly elevated at 149 and 143. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 19 19:43:09 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 14:29:03 2011. no. i dont "have" to. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Aug 19 20:01:35 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 19:41:28 2011. Yes, when it ran through to Manhattan, the express was doubly elevated at 149 and 143.149th & 3rd Ave was a single level structure. Meaning two island level platforms with a center express track. After the Manhattan portion of the line closed, the express track was covered with wood planking making the station one huge island platform. You must be think of Gunhill Rd.  Line: 3rd Avenue El...Location: 149th Street... Car: Low-V... Photo by: Joe Korman...from nycsubway.org |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 20:11:08 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Aug 19 20:01:35 2011. No, it was two levels from 125th to 149th when the line ran through to Manhattan. Here's a view along 144th St, with the Bergen Cut-off in the background. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 19 20:22:49 2011, in response to Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jan 21 07:17:27 2011. I have a theory, having brought trains back there and seen the signals, it definitely at one point did go past that wall. I think originally they built the tunnels going toward 76 st and then they were later filled and sealed. Because if they were used by Con-Ed or Verizon or any other utility company or transit there would grates etc etc around that area. I simply think they filled it and left. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 19 20:31:25 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 19 20:22:49 2011. the only people who could tell you if something was back there is the maintainers... |
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Posted by arnine on Fri Aug 19 20:33:51 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 19 20:22:49 2011. We should sneak in at night with jackhammers, etc |
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Posted by handbrake on Fri Aug 19 21:25:45 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 24 20:08:24 2011. Had an underground subway structure initially have been built, and not filled in, then NYCT would have been obligated to inspect the subway tunnel structure on a regular basis.As an example, existing remnants of the uncompleted 2nd Avenue Subway that built in the 1970's are inspected by NYCT engineering personnel on a regular basis to identify structural problems that could result in a street collapse or cave in. I obtained this bit of information from a NYCT telephone maintainer who's pick assignment, in his junior past, was to perform "routines" (AKA: Preventive maintenance) to Emergency Alarm (EA) Boxes, and telephones along the right of way. One such location for a routine inspection visit were the uncompleted trackway tunnels of the 2nd Avenue Subway. Telephones were installed in the completed tunnel segments to facilitate communications by a transit tunnel inspection team in the 2nd Avenue tunnel in the event an inspection team encountered an emergency condition, or for any other business reason to use of an underground telephone were required. Thus, if the incomplete 2nd Avenue subway tunnels have undergone periodic structural inspections, along with preventive telephone maintenance visits over the years, then the same would hold true to an IND subway tunnel/station at 76th street in Queens if it exists. I know of no NYCT telephone maintainer who has ventured underground past the existing wall east of the Euclid Avenue station to perform an operational test of telephone (Dial-tone) equipment. |
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Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street (NYCT Maintainers) |
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Posted by handbrake on Fri Aug 19 21:28:36 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 19 20:31:25 2011. Repost:Had an underground subway structure initially have been built, and not filled in, then NYCT would have been obligated to inspect the subway tunnel structure on a regular basis. As an example, existing remnants of the uncompleted 2nd Avenue Subway that built in the 1970's are inspected by NYCT engineering personnel on a regular basis to identify structural problems that could result in a street collapse or cave in. I obtained this bit of information from a NYCT telephone maintainer who's pick assignment, in his junior past, was to perform "routines" (AKA: Preventive maintenance) to Emergency Alarm (EA) Boxes, and telephones along the right of way. One such location for a routine inspection visit were the uncompleted trackway tunnels of the 2nd Avenue Subway. Telephones were installed in the completed tunnel segments to facilitate communications by a transit tunnel inspection team in the 2nd Avenue tunnel in the event an inspection team encountered an emergency condition, or for any other business reason to use of an underground telephone were required. Thus, if the incomplete 2nd Avenue subway tunnels have undergone periodic structural inspections, along with preventive telephone maintenance visits over the years, then the same would hold true to an IND subway tunnel/station at 76th street in Queens if it exists. I know of no NYCT telephone maintainer who has ventured underground past the existing wall east of the Euclid Avenue station to perform an operational test of telephone (Dial-tone) equipment. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 19 21:43:28 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 19 20:31:25 2011. Well I've been to that wall... the signal thats there indicated the tracks went further but it was filled |
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Posted by handbrake on Fri Aug 19 22:02:56 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 19 21:43:28 2011. I suspect that any construction past the concrete block walls may have been filled in, similar to what was done on 2nd avenue in the East Village area after all utilities were relocated to permit tunnel digging. The 1976 era budget crisis ended subway construction, and what ever was dug up, was filled in. In the case of 76th Street, there may be some length of a tunnel structure east of the existing wall, but I suspect with earth fill. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Aug 19 23:35:01 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by arnine on Fri Aug 19 20:33:51 2011. Just get ground penetrating radar. It should show most underground items. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Aug 19 23:43:11 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by handbrake on Fri Aug 19 21:25:45 2011. who inspects the polo grounds shuttle,the narrows tunnel under owls park? neither was filled in. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Aug 19 23:45:47 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Aug 19 23:35:01 2011. who will get it? who will pay for it? |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Aug 20 07:04:49 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Aug 19 23:35:01 2011. I think a call to the Mythbusters is in order! Seriously, I wish Jane Pauley (?sp) still had her Underground NY series on channel 4. I remember she did one on the not so secret FDR train at GCT. Wish she did 76th Street! |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Aug 20 08:23:27 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by arnine on Sat Aug 20 07:04:49 2011. there`s also secrets of new york with that really hot korean chick.BOY i,d really like to explore her hidden secrets. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 09:17:42 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 20:11:08 2011. I see I've confused myself: the upper level descended right before 149th St station.
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 09:18:09 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 20:11:08 2011. I see I've confused myself: the upper level descended right before 149th St station.And this time I won't break the image: 
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 09:32:29 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Aug 19 23:45:47 2011. Are you offering, Mr 76th St? |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 09:33:39 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Aug 20 08:23:27 2011. This thread is worthless without pics. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 09:35:52 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 09:33:39 2011. Sorry, that should have read:This thread is worthless without pics of mystical chicks! :-D |
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Posted by Dan on Sat Aug 20 10:16:00 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by tunnelrat on Fri Aug 19 23:43:11 2011. Those structures may now be the responsibility of the NYC Dept of Transportation, not MTA/NYCT. |
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Re: Bob Diamond's tunnel |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Aug 21 12:07:48 2011, in response to Re: Bob Diamond's tunnel, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jan 24 07:59:58 2011. And for that time there were a ton of commercials, it was a fun show though. Karl M |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 21 17:06:08 2011, in response to Re: Bob Diamond's tunnel, posted by arnine on Fri Jan 28 08:55:04 2011. Actually, the wall at the end of track in the Pitkin Av portion of the subway is not cinderblock but concrete. The cinderblock is at the end of A7 and A8 yard leads. |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 21 17:11:17 2011, in response to Re: Bob Diamond's tunnel, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 21 17:06:08 2011. OK my mistake thanks for the correction :) OK give Geraldo concrete busting tools and let him at it :) |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 21 17:13:36 2011, in response to Re: Bob Diamond's tunnel, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 21 17:06:08 2011. Behind which is a small storage room... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 21 20:17:22 2011, in response to Re: Bob Diamond's tunnel, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 21 17:06:08 2011. Thanks for correcting Arnine. |
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Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Aug 21 20:42:35 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Aug 19 23:45:47 2011. if I was offering there would be NO question marks. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 21 20:55:11 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Aug 19 23:35:01 2011. What a great idea! Did you think of it yourself?!!? |
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