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Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 14:15:13 2011, in response to Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 15 13:52:34 2011. NY Daily News Version |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 15 14:24:50 2011, in response to Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 15 13:52:34 2011. Sen. Charles Fuschillo (R-Nassau County), a sponsor of the legislation.(waits for "nanny stater" rap) ... |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 15 14:57:47 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 14:15:13 2011. is smoking on da outdoor el platforms already banned by da mta?i saw da police warn passengers about that. chud1 |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:15:15 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 15 14:57:47 2011. Yes smoking is banned on the outdoor el platforms, but it was Bloomberg that banned it not MTA. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 15 15:27:14 2011, in response to Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 15 13:52:34 2011. Would this also apply to Amtrak facilities as well? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:33:35 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:15:15 2011. I thought it was illegal on el platforms for eons already? |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Aug 15 15:36:53 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:33:35 2011. It was - I mean - it is. |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:39:00 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:33:35 2011. You very well might be right. I made my comment based on this line in the OP: "Governor Andrew Cuomo today appears to be picking up where Mayor Bloomberg left off when it comes to banning smoking forever, everywhere, all the time."I know it was banned in the subway portions forever, but I don't remember seeing no smoking signs on the el platforms like you have on the subway platforms. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:39:16 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Allan on Mon Aug 15 15:36:53 2011. No, I mean, I think it was illegal to smoke on subway platforms in the 90's already, or am I wrong? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:40:45 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:39:00 2011. I believe it was illegal for decades already, but it was often not enforced on outside platforms on the subway. |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Aug 15 15:40:55 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 15 15:27:14 2011. I would think that it would apply only where Amtrak uses the facilities of a "host" railroad such as MetroNorth (New Haven, New Rochelle, Yonkers etc).If the facility is owned by Amtrak then it would not apply. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:41:47 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:40:45 2011. It may even date way back to when it was done for safety reasons when many platforms were made out of wood. |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:41:57 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:40:45 2011. That makes sense you probably are right. |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:43:05 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:41:47 2011. Actually, very good point, I think you are right. I took the article wrong I see. :( |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Aug 15 15:43:21 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:39:16 2011. It was illegal to smoke on any NYCT platform (subway or elevated) by then. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 15:46:08 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:15:15 2011. Smoking was banned from NYCT facilities long before Bloomberg came along. |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:48:50 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 15:46:08 2011. Yes I see that now thanks :) :) |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 15:49:45 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Allan on Mon Aug 15 15:40:55 2011. Amtrak's official policy is that smoking is banned from all equipment and platforms, EXCEPT the Auto Train's smoking lounge. But they ALSO allow smoking at certain station stops, so...Amtrak's smoking policy |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 15:51:07 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 15:49:45 2011. Cool thanks :) |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 15:52:44 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 15:49:45 2011. By stations, they are referring to the stationhouses, not the platforms. Smoking is generally allowed on platforms. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Aug 15 15:54:08 2011, in response to Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 15 13:52:34 2011. I agree...there shouldn't be any smoking on the platforms.......this is a big concern when you're on a crowded paltform and someone lights up and you have no where to move to. Do you think the smoker cares? NO...they don't...they do as they please without any concern about the person(s) next to them. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 15 16:15:57 2011, in response to Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 15 13:52:34 2011. what a joke if there is no enforcement...Oh there will be enforcement...enter The Breathers, militant non-smokers with water buckets. All they need to hear is that it's illegal and they'll pounce. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 16:21:51 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Aug 15 15:54:08 2011. I recall reading an article in Trains about someone who had a summer job working with a lineside weed-spraying crew. As they sprayed tracks running along a highway median, they discovered the median was entirely covered with cigarette butts. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 15 16:22:09 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 15 16:15:57 2011. "The Breathers" ... heh. I'll bet their phone calls are ... interesting. :) |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 16:23:23 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 15 16:22:09 2011. We'll need to ask this guy:
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 15 16:24:34 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 16:23:23 2011. Now leave railman outta this! :) |
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Posted by davesgcr on Mon Aug 15 16:26:03 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 16:21:51 2011. We have this nonesense in the UK -Of course , sensible places like Holland and Germany have a designated smoking area. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 15 16:28:52 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 16:23:23 2011. Hey he posts here :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Aug 15 16:38:54 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 15:49:45 2011. Thx Hank.What I really should have said was: If the facility is owned by Amtrak, then their rules would apply. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 15 17:28:24 2011, in response to Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 15 13:52:34 2011. Wow the diesel trains cease smoking at the platforms? |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Aug 15 18:09:18 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 15:49:45 2011. On Amtrak long distance trains, announcements are made when approaching crew change stations to alert addicted passengers that the train is approaching a smoking stop.That's my cue to get my camera out and step outside for a possible photo op. quote from the link that Mr. Eisenstein posted: Passengers may smoke on station platforms at longer stops as announced by train crews. Passengers must remain next to the train, ready to re-board immediately upon hearing the sound of the locomotive horn and the "all aboard" calls from Amtrak employees. Smoking stops may be shortened or eliminated entirely if the train is operating late. State or local laws may prohibit smoking on station platforms. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Aug 15 18:16:11 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 15 17:28:24 2011. Wow the diesel trains cease smoking at the platforms?Yes. They resume when they accelerate out of the station. train 872 departing Poughkeepsie station 
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 15 18:17:42 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 15:46:08 2011. BMT Sign from the 1920's - note the reference to the Transit Commission
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 18:42:40 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 15 18:17:42 2011. Yeah, that's what I thought, it went WAY back to the wooden platform days. Its not a "nanny" law on the subway...it was a safety law. |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 18:47:15 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 15 18:17:42 2011. Wow, I stand corrected :) Thanks :) GP38/R42 Chris my apologies and Chud1 my apologies for giving you misinformation. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 15 18:53:22 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 15 18:17:42 2011. I'm sure it's still illegal to spit. But it doesn't seem so important anymore. How did we eradicate spitting? |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 15 18:59:14 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by chuchubob on Mon Aug 15 18:16:11 2011. as a smoker i should be able to smoke in da parking lot. if other people are there, i will step away from them, cause i respect their right if they do not smoke and inhale my smoke.its da way i was brought up. chud1 |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 15 19:03:54 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 18:47:15 2011. thats quite alright arnine. as long as u admit da mistake, apology accept.chud1 |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 15 19:06:32 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 18:42:40 2011. Wooden cars and platforms (at least on the els) back in the day. It was definitely safety related. Can't blame any modern day politicians for that one :) |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 15 19:12:50 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 15 18:53:22 2011. I don't know how accurate this is but I heard that the original "no spitting" ordinances were related to the outbreak of the Spanish Flu around 1918.To this day the Local 32BJ contract has a clause that states that cleaners are not responsible to clean spittoons. I guess spitting declined as the use of chewing tobacco declined |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 19:18:44 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 15 19:03:54 2011. Thank you :) |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 15 19:23:19 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 18:47:15 2011. I remember the "No Smoking"/"No Spitting" signs on the subway since I was a kid. Back then it was one of the few places where smoking was prohibited. The IND signs also included "No Littering" IIRC. |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Aug 15 19:32:57 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 15 19:23:19 2011. I think I have seen No Littering signs I think next time I take the subway I will look I think my stop (63rd Drive) has them. |
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Posted by monorail on Mon Aug 15 19:44:21 2011, in response to Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 15 13:52:34 2011. GREAT!!! Glad to hear of it!!! |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 20:55:08 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 15 18:59:14 2011. And where do you drop your ashes and butts when you smoke outside? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 16 04:02:08 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by chuchubob on Mon Aug 15 18:16:11 2011. Bob , MNCR does not run its diesels ON the platforms. |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Aug 16 04:16:14 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 15 20:55:08 2011. in a bottle of water that i carry when i am at a outdoor station.chud1 |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Aug 16 04:55:19 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by chud1 on Tue Aug 16 04:16:14 2011. I have a hard time believing that. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 16 05:03:35 2011, in response to Re: Gov. Cuomo bans smoking on LIRR & Metro North platforms, posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 15 14:57:47 2011. HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS |
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