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J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011

I just read this on nyctransitforums.com from a train operator who mention that he heard the J train would be extended to Bay Parkway 4 TPH?

Is this really true? How are they going to do this?

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by vfrt on Wed Apr 6 18:32:21 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

==Is this really true? How are they going to do this?==

Hey Chipper10. THEY will do this by running J trains to Bay Parkway. Highly unlikely.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Apr 6 19:32:38 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

Use buses from the X23 and X24?

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by orionviidieselbus on Wed Apr 6 19:34:59 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

We don't know if thats happening, plans can change anytime with the MTA. Problary a proposed change but I dobut it will happen.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway? ... No

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 6 19:46:43 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

The answer is no...

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Apr 6 19:47:57 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

Uh, Uh, Uh, I seen a R32 on the (B), 46 on the (C), 160 on the (B), just got off the (V)!

Woke up and realized, it was only just a dreeeaaamm!

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Apr 6 19:58:36 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

They've been trying for years to get rid of the underutilized Southern Division Nassau Street service. Why would they want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Apr 6 21:24:50 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

Chipper, don't believe everything you read in the land of foamers with R278-3358 type handles.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Wed Apr 6 21:43:56 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

its true... to Harry Pothole's NYC Transit Forums

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 7 02:07:33 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Apr 6 19:58:36 2011.

Did you forget the first rule of Subchat? All tracks except yard leads must be used for some sort of service at all times.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 7 02:30:38 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

The pick books are out.............we are now picking.............and no J's or Z's are going to Bay Pky.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by SBS79 on Thu Apr 7 05:15:33 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 7 02:30:38 2011.

Maybe it's got to be the next pick, well see if that happens.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Apr 7 06:37:26 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

Lol.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by MCI GUY on Thu Apr 7 10:52:48 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Apr 6 19:32:38 2011.

whaT ABOUT THE AE7.

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Posted by MCI GUY on Thu Apr 7 10:55:01 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

HI CHIPPER. YOU DITCHED BUSCHAT WHEN I OUTED YOU THERE.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by vfrt on Thu Apr 7 11:28:09 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by MCI GUY on Thu Apr 7 10:55:01 2011.

Is 'chipper10' a real person? Have you ever seen him? Is he an adult? SBS79 is so obviously chipper10 it's funny. He should just come out and say it.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Apr 7 11:47:20 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Thu Apr 7 05:15:33 2011.

Yea Chipper10, maybe the fall pick . . .NOT!!!

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 7 11:58:36 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.



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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 7 13:22:17 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

Very carefully.:)

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 7 13:23:14 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Apr 6 19:58:36 2011.

Plus they don't want any Stooges down there, either.:)

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Randyo on Thu Apr 7 14:21:19 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by orionviidieselbus on Wed Apr 6 19:34:59 2011.

Remember when everyone said that the M/V merger would not happen? While I'm not saying it will happen, the MTA might run 5 or 6 AM N/B rush hour J put ins from Bay Pky and return them there in the PM rush. There could be some political pressure behind the rumor and such a limited rush hour service might be enough to placate the politicos without incurring the full expense of an all day service through the Nassau cut.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 9 14:09:20 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Randyo on Thu Apr 7 14:21:19 2011.

Why jeopardize the timing of the J/Z trains? Just run a few rush hour trains just between Chambers and 9th Ave! Keep it simple!

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 9 14:41:51 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 9 14:09:20 2011.

Duplicates service unnecessarily. Even if not in service, these trains would have to be operated to/from ENY. Extending Z trains to 9th Ave adds no new operating expenses for the Nassau St. line.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 9 15:21:08 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 9 14:41:51 2011.

Isn't Coney island closer?

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 9 15:24:33 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 9 14:41:51 2011.

I was thinking of service similar to the old diamond R, except using 9th Ave as a terminal. They could not run out of CI yard?

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 9 16:47:10 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 9 15:24:33 2011.

While on paper those "R's" ran to Chambers St, in reality, many of them ran to Metropolitan unofficially.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by B1bus on Sat Apr 9 19:11:57 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 9 15:24:33 2011.

I do see some lite R trains on the center track of the D line going to the yard PMs'..

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sat Apr 9 22:43:00 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

Say what you will about subchat, but nyctransitforums is 10x as bad. I wouldn't believe ANYTHING posted to that site.

I've actually gotten requests from that site's administration to join and try to improve things. No way in hell.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Nova LFSA 1289 on Sun Apr 10 00:30:57 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

Wheres the link to the thread?

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Apr 10 02:50:14 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Nova LFSA 1289 on Sun Apr 10 00:30:57 2011.

Here

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Railman718 on Sun Apr 10 08:56:12 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

This thread still going on?

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by LRG5784 on Sun Apr 10 08:59:23 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Apr 7 11:47:20 2011.

Lol.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Apr 10 11:20:30 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Apr 10 02:50:14 2011.

The same thread where the OP (3 months ago) said that R44's would return to the A, and R32's would go to the J.

Yeah, none of that happened, so his source with the car assignment list lives in a dreamworld.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 10 12:40:14 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 9 16:47:10 2011.

Metro and ENY, yes. Even if they are stored during the day north of Chambers, they'd still have to be secured in yards overnights and on weekends. It would increase the cost of operations substantially. Z trains, OTOH already run to/from ENY (except for one in the afternoon that originates at JC).

Another cost for either plan would be the need to move these Z trains to/from Coney Island. If you're gonna do that, than running them to Bay Parkway makes more sense.

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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 10 17:30:27 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 10 12:40:14 2011.

You are saying that storing 2 or 3 Chambers/9Ave rush hour trains at Metro yard will break the bank?

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 10 18:11:39 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 9 14:09:20 2011.

It wouldn't impact on the J/Z very much if at all, since in the AM these trains would be running against the direction of heavy J/Z traffic.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Apr 11 22:33:14 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 7 13:23:14 2011.

Especially not Curly!

-w-

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 12 00:36:07 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Apr 11 22:33:14 2011.

For those of you with Cable HD TV, they have the Three Stooges on the Antenna Channel, which is one of the extension channels of Channel 11 WPIX. I've been watching some of their episodes and they are hilarious. I have it on Cablevision channel 114. But even if you use actual antenna with a converter box, it's channel 11.3 or something. But of course you have to have an HDTV.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Apr 12 02:29:51 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 12 00:36:07 2011.

AMC airs the Three Stooges in the mornings [not all the time, but I've seen it from the listings often enough].

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 12 02:34:40 2011, in response to J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SBS79 on Wed Apr 6 18:29:44 2011.

At some point it will happen, simply because NYCT gets off on longer trips and more cab time for the motorman and conductors. Plus, it may make sense to send a few trains there. I'm sure people are still complaining about the loss of the M.

While we're on the topic of Bay Parkway, now that the M goes to Continental, I've noticed that there are never 2 M's in the pocket at Met. Going to Continental has messed up Met terminal.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Apr 12 08:00:02 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Apr 11 22:33:14 2011.

sZemp, maybe.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Apr 12 09:08:55 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 12 00:36:07 2011.

>>>>But of course you have to have an HDTV.<<<


No you don't.

Antenna TV is a DIGITAL sub-channel of WPIX. It's transmission is lousy, even through cable systems as goes out A LOT. You do not need an HDTV to receive it over the air, they don't even broadcast in HD only SD. You do need a TV that can receive DIGITAL signals. Even a 1955 Philco can receive a DIGITAL signal IF you have a converter box.


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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 12 09:31:13 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Apr 12 09:08:55 2011.

Ah, okay, I have cable so get it through that. I haven't had it go out at all since I discovered it a few months ago.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Apr 12 09:55:04 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 12 09:31:13 2011.

Like I said ANT goes out alot even on cablevision. ANT has serious issues, I won't watch anything on that channel 'till they get their act together.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 12 10:29:28 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Apr 12 09:55:04 2011.

Odd because I never had a problem with it ever going out, and have watched it a lot since I discovered it a few months ago. It never once went out, and I have Cablevision.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 12 11:58:32 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 10 17:30:27 2011.

2 or 3 won't cut it. It will have to be at least 6. If the trains run in too narrow a window, people won't seek to use them.

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 12 12:02:26 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by B1bus on Sat Apr 9 19:11:57 2011.

36th St doesn't have the room to store too many trains. It's full of work division rolling stock. Any Z train from 9th Ave would almost certainly have to come from CI. There are some R trains which end at 36th and 59th that lay up at CI during the day.

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Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 16:59:17 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 12 02:34:40 2011.

How is not having 2 trains at a time in the Met Av mess up the terminal

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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 12 17:58:48 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 16:59:17 2011.

Having 2 in the terminal is a pretty good sign that everything is normal. When a train comes in, dumps, charges and leaves right away, things are hectic. Now Met is hectic, which we knew would happen once Continental became the terminal on the other end.

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Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Apr 12 22:18:20 2011, in response to Re: J train extended to Bay Parkway?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Apr 12 08:00:02 2011.

We'll sZee...

=-w-=

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