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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 25 17:31:29 2009, in response to Re: Future expansion wish list?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Dec 25 15:58:34 2009. I'd like to see one on a number of crosstown streets as well.Indeed. But I like 34 St as a start. Actually I should add that much of Broadway is now a viable ROW, but best to break new ground with rail rather than duplicating existing alignments. Still, I mean you could have something like the M16/34 bus routes as surface running rail. The 34th Street Crosstown streetcar would probably be a better bang for buck for connecting those coming from Penn Station or Herald Square to Javitz and the mythical office developments projected for that area. That was part of my thinking, yes. I've always felt that a line should be slightly to the North around Jewel Avenue since Hillside is too close to Union Turnpike. Jewel Av is so residential though. Unless you end the branch under Queens College somehow, it's tough to see the point, especially with the branching problem. Mind you, I've viewed turning over the branch to NYCTA to be a complete abortion given that by the time the M-1s arrived, we'd probably have an 80 mph MAS in lieu of NYCTA's "scenic route" to Midtown at 35 to 45 mph. I think that one has to take into account of LIRR's own scenic route and low speeds as being the relevant comparison though, at least in the present day. We're talking about 30-40 mph MAS on the LIRR Far Rockaway Branch. And I think that LIRR had no intention of running a service for NYC, certainly not at the service intervals that we see NYCT bring. On your comparison, I think it's also arguable whether, even assuming that LIRR treated the Rockaway and Rockaway Park Branches no worse than its Far Rockaway Branch, that we'd be talking about 80 mph MAS. E.g., I live on the Port Washington Branch, and almost all of the time, the trains that I ride never even break 59 mph, and are actually far below that in between most of the stations. |
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