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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Van Nostrand on Sat Jul 11 14:36:15 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

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I'd like to express my admiration for your beautiful map. It deserves exposure outside of the SubChat community. It should end up on Reddit and Digg, at least.

I'd also like to express my rage and exasperation. You killed my dream of doing something similar. ;)


Feedback:
1. For greater consistency with your map's style and the conventional style, should Ninth Street PATH not be spelled as 9th Street?

Somewhat similarly: "Smith-9th Streets"? "West 4th Street"?

2. Newark PATH looks like a branch of the Seventh Avenue Line.

3. I'm not sure I understand the commuter rail color schemes. First, the brightly-colored branch lines emerging from gray main ("trunk?") lines just look weird. Second, the bold colors could make a novice rider think the branches are somehow more important than the main. Third, the colors also make the branches look rapid-transity -- specifically in the Bronx -- so that the novice rider might expect Subway-style frequent service there.

In my opinion, an all-gray scheme for CR would work better.

4. Your map is more dense with information than the official one, reflecting your love and extensive knowledge of the system and the locales it serves. Great that the extra is present for anyone who wants to learn about this marvelous transit system; and you've managed it just so that while it's accessible for any rider who might practically need it, it won't confuse a novice.

You execute it perfectly, I think, except where you print the location of Subway yards. It is prone to confuse non-SubChat-types. I'd suggest printing the yard information in a low-contrast color similar to that of the expressways on your map.

5. A novice who's not a sharp map reader might wonder if the (2,3) stops at 103rd Street/CPW.

6. I agree with the other SubChatter who disliked the "NO NORTHBOUND ENTRY" warnings. It seems deceptive worded as such. And even assuming the wording is fine, wouldn't you need to print similar warnings for Franklin St (1), 23rd Street (C,E), and many others, to be consistent?

7. If the all-day, weekday-only (V) warrants a solid line orange line and a solid orange circle, doesn't the Flatbush Avenue (5) deserve it too?

8. There's an extra space in "B ," at Atlantic Terminal.

9. The square "terminus" icons look a bit out-of-place when they get separated from the dot that represents the terminal station, as in crowded areas of the map like Lower Manhattan. Your solution is to place the icon near the station name rather than the station dot -- but it confused me for a few minutes, until I understood what you were doing with them. It would be clearer that those icons are paired with the station names if you scaled them smaller, to the size of the station name font.

10. Re: Crown Heights / Utica Avenue, "during the rush hour" sounds awkward to my ear. For style and consistency, I suggest using simply, "rush hours", as you do at New Lots terminal.

11. Re: Bleecker Street, suggest "Downtown 6 platform..." in place of "Downtown platform...".

12. Hells Kitchen -> Hell's Kitchen.

13. DUMBO and Loisaida are not well-established neighborhood names. I am not sure they are worthy of such a professional-looking map. On the other hand, it is also a modern-looking map, so maybe the names are appropriate. (I think DUMBO is traditionally called Vinegar Hill.)


By the way, can you tell us about the technical tools you used for this project? Google Maps? Adobe Illustrator?

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