|
|
| Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN! (808167) | |||
 |
|||
| Home > SubChat | |||
|
[ Read Responses | Post a New Response | Return to the Index ] |
|
||
|
Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN! |
|
|
Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 12 16:00:13 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Van Nostrand on Sat Jul 11 14:36:15 2009. I'd like to express my admiration for your beautiful map. It deserves exposure outside of the SubChat community. It should end up on Reddit and Digg, at least.I don't think it's ready for primetime, at least not yet. I'd also like to express my rage and exasperation. You killed my dream of doing something similar. ;) Accept my apologies. Feedback: 1. For greater consistency with your map's style and the conventional style, should Ninth Street PATH not be spelled as 9th Street? That's actually something carried over from a Wikipedia policy. I just decided to go along with it. Somewhat similarly: "Smith-9th Streets"? "West 4th Street"? See above. 2. Newark PATH looks like a branch of the Seventh Avenue Line. The NWK-WTC line is rendered in red on PATH maps. Decided to carry that over too. 3. I'm not sure I understand the commuter rail color schemes. First, the brightly-colored branch lines emerging from gray main ("trunk?") lines just look weird. Second, the bold colors could make a novice rider think the branches are somehow more important than the main. Third, the colors also make the branches look rapid-transity -- specifically in the Bronx -- so that the novice rider might expect Subway-style frequent service there. And that is why there's a note under Metro-North in the box: Trains operate on a schedule and fares are distance based. In my opinion, an all-gray scheme for CR would work better. One of the reasons I did this map is because of that, I wanted each line to be displayed in it's original colors given by their operator. You execute it perfectly, I think, except where you print the location of Subway yards. It is prone to confuse non-SubChat-types. I'd suggest printing the yard information in a low-contrast color similar to that of the expressways on your map. I'll consider that. 5. A novice who's not a sharp map reader might wonder if the (2,3) stops at 103rd Street/CPW. And they will figure that one out when the train keeps moving. : ) 6. I agree with the other SubChatter who disliked the "NO NORTHBOUND ENTRY" warnings. It seems deceptive worded as such. And even assuming the wording is fine, wouldn't you need to print similar warnings for Franklin St (1), 23rd Street (C,E), and many others, to be consistent? 200th, 238th, and 145th only have high exit turnstiles on ther northbound platforms. While 200th does have an underpass, the latter two do not. Those other examples you mention have either standard three arm turnstiles, and/or high exit (and high entrance) turnstiles that allow passengers to enter the system without the use of under or overpasses. I will revise 200th, since it is possible to catch a northbound train, but the other two will remain. 7. If the all-day, weekday-only (V) warrants a solid line orange line and a solid orange circle, doesn't the Flatbush Avenue (5) deserve it too? Actually, yes, it does. I'll fix that. 8. There's an extra space in "B ," at Atlantic Terminal. Thanks for catching that. 9. The square "terminus" icons look a bit out-of-place when they get separated from the dot that represents the terminal station, as in crowded areas of the map like Lower Manhattan. Your solution is to place the icon near the station name rather than the station dot -- but it confused me for a few minutes, until I understood what you were doing with them. It would be clearer that those icons are paired with the station names if you scaled them smaller, to the size of the station name font. I'll consider it. 10. Re: Crown Heights / Utica Avenue, "during the rush hour" sounds awkward to my ear. For style and consistency, I suggest using simply, "rush hours", as you do at New Lots terminal. Noted. It does sound better, I'll change it. 11. Re: Bleecker Street, suggest "Downtown 6 platform..." in place of "Downtown platform...". Then comes 2AM, the 4 stops there, and then someone asks "Shouldn't it be the downtown 4 platform?" I don't want to underestimate tourists, you were the one who said that someone might think the 2 and 3 stopped at 103rd Street. 12. Hells Kitchen -> Hell's Kitchen. Oops. 13. DUMBO and Loisaida are not well-established neighborhood names. I am not sure they are worthy of such a professional-looking map. On the other hand, it is also a modern-looking map, so maybe the names are appropriate. (I think DUMBO is traditionally called Vinegar Hill.) That's more of a "damned if you do, and damned if you don't" situation. Neighborhoods are a touchy thing, and I'd rather not get into that. By the way, can you tell us about the technical tools you used for this project? Google Maps? Adobe Illustrator? Both. Created a Google Maps mashup of the entire city, set it as a layer, then drew out lines on top of it on different layers. |
|
|
|