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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 17 15:56:49 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 17 12:58:51 2009.

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Soldiers are not policemen. They do not even have the power to make an arrest. They HAVE no civil (police) function in this country.

You just said that they *were* entitled to not only capture people, but detain them without oversight. In any case, they have arrested people, held them without oversight, and ultimately determined most of them had done nothing wrong. This is all painfully obvious by now; I'm surprised that there are still people who don't get it.

They cannot say that I am a combatant unless I am in a uniform, answerable to superiors and carrying a weapon.

Oh, come on. Bush has stated that he can designate anybody an "enemy combatant" and imprison them without cause. This is obvious by now.

I'm having trouble figuring out your position here. You object to my example on what seems to be a mere technicality; you oppose the idea of soldiers doing the capturing, or that they're doing it in North Dakota, or maybe you just object when it's you, but you seem to have no objections to the practice of capturing and detaining people with no judicial oversight and no regard for whether they've actually done anything illegal. Yet you deny that Bush did these things, which suggests that you're merely grossly misinformed or terminally thick.

So I need to know your position:

Do you believe that there are any circumstances in which it is acceptable to detain someone without judicial oversight? Assuming the US is the country detaining them, is it acceptable to detain somebody without granting them the protections of the US Constitution under any circumstances?

Rules and circumstances pertaining to wars don't apply, as the US has not declared war on any other countries, nor has any other country declared was against the US. This refers solely to individuals or groups of individuals who are accused of performing or plotting to perform illegal actions (crimes).

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