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Re: Why was 179th St/Jamaica 13 years late?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 5 18:27:41 2009, in response to Re: Why was 179th St/Jamaica 13 years late?, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jan 5 17:30:51 2009.

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That was just a trade between railroad lines at the time. while a good thing, it's not an expansion. Not a good example.

It could have just been abandoned like other LIRR lines were unfortunately abandoned. Such as the Whitestone branch. It's actually a small miracle that so much money was spent on rebuilding the line across Jamaica Bay. We are lucky to have it.

False. Moses could easily have made an accommodation for transit wirthin the road projects, and yes the money would still have come to NY

Yes, I never denied that.

Moses single-handedly fucked up transit expansion in NY.

Not entirely. Again, it was a national trend. No major city at the time was expanding transit. NY is not unique in that. It's unfortunate, but GM, the tire companies, and many other forces within the car industry that we are now trying to bail out had a lot to do with the destruction of trolley systems around the country, and there was no real expansion of transit in most cities on any large scale in that era, with perhaps just a small few exceptions.

Again, the major problem in that era wasn't "Robert Moses" lobbying for roads. The problem was that there wasn't a similar guy out there lobbying for transit. But again, there wasn't anyone doing that in any city at the time either.


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