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Re: TA is obsessed with CBTC, and ''New'' tech for no reason.

Posted by Jeff H. on Sun Mar 2 01:54:40 2008, in response to Re: TA is obsessed with CBTC, and ''New'' tech for no reason., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Mar 1 09:16:28 2008.

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I respectfully disagree with regard to cab signals.

You are quite correct that the "sensing" of the train's
position is discrete and delimited by the IJs.

The tranmission of the speed "command" to the train is
continuous. Let's say you have just passed a wayside
signal point in an ASC cab signal system. The indication
of that signal is Approach (proceed not exceeding medium
speed prepared to stop at next signal) and when you pass
the signal your cab signal displays 30 MPH. That "command"
is being sent to you by the next track circuit boundary
in front of your train, because the track transformer which
is feeding track circuit energy into the rails is "coding"
it (100% AM) at a certain rate, typically 75 pulses per minute.
Whereas the signal you just passed had been the termination
of that track circuit, now that you have occupied it, your front
axles terminate the circuit. A modulated AC current is thus
flowing through the rails and through your axles, which an
inductive loop on your lead truck picks up and decodes using
logic which is so straightforward it was possible to do this
in the 1920s with relays and tuned transformers.

Now, I say it is continuous for two reasons. With ASC, your
speed is continuously monitored and compared with the command.
With wayside trips, your speed is based on X/T between two
points, and could thus go far above the limit during part of
your traversal.

The other aspect of continuity is that when conditions change,
the command changes instantly. You don't have to wait until
the next signal for reception and enforcement. This works both
ways. When your leader pulls away, you get an upgrade mid-block.
Likewise, if a controlled signal is dropped in front of you,
you can get a downgrade.

As for CBTC, I'll have to look up what the sampling rate is.

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