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Re: (interlocking) TA is obsessed with CBTC, and ''New'' tech for no reason.

Posted by Jeff H. on Mon Mar 3 19:36:13 2008, in response to Re: TA is obsessed with CBTC, and ''New'' tech for no reason., posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Mar 3 08:46:02 2008.

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See around curves? I'd do it with mirrors (or an occasional repeater).

Mirros? That's a new one!

Anyway, the advantages of a cab signal display were argued and
won 70 years ago. Besides curves (both horizontal and vertical),
there is glare, snow/rain/fog, etc. Not to mention lamps being
out (and before you even say it, LED lights blow out too).
Of course there is a standard for Lamp Out detection and
downgrading the previous signal, but it is not used in transit
applications because of the relatively low speeds and short
stopping distances.


You mean a tower operator can throw a switch open, while a train is barreling towards it? Just what was the
design spec for that interlocking?


Uh oh. You might want to read a primer on interlockings, because
you seem to have a common misconception. Simmons Boardman has a
few books available which you can order online. Some are pretty
technical with actual circuits, others are more from a railfan
perspective.

Let me explain this in terms of electro-mechanical interlocking
because that is most intuitive. Say we're on a GRS pistol grip
machine (model 2 or 5). In order to move a switch lever, all
of the signal levers which protect that switch must be pushed
in, ALL the way. If any such signal lever is out, it mechanically
prevents the switch lever from being moved in either direction.

When a signal lever is pulled all the way out, it allows the signal
to clear in the field if all other conditions are met (track
occupancy, stop arm has driven down, all switches in the route
are over, locked and in correspondence with their associated levers)

NOTHING locks the signal lever from being pushed in. The tower
operator can drop a signal at any time, including when the train
is 3 feet in front of it. However, it would clearly be a bad design
if, in such a case, one could immediately unlock the protected
switch lever, because the train would be unable to stop in time
and you would throw the switch under the train.

Therefore, the signal lever has a locking detent when you push it
in. It stops just short of the fully-in position. If there is
no train approaching the signal (based on track circuit occupancy)
then the lever goes right in and you can change the lineup.
But if there is a train approaching, there is a timer which starts
to run when the lever has been pushed partly in. The time value
depends on the length of the approach track circuit and the assumed
maximum speed of the train, plus a margin. When that timer
finishes, the lever is unlocked and can be pushed fully in, thus
allowing the route to be changed.

The switch lever is also electrically locked from moving when
the short track circuit which covers the switch area is occupied.
This is known as "detector locking". There is a manual bypass
procedure in case the track circuit has failed.

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