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Re: Design your own IND Re: G Train to be cut back to Court Square permanently

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 19 12:05:47 2008, in response to Re: Design your own IND Re: G Train to be cut back to Court Square permanently, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 16 19:35:06 2008.

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I know this is heresy, but I think the Fulton St. subway serves people better than the Fulton St. el did. I can see a trip from Lefferts taking an additional 10 minutes, due to the sharp curves east of Atlantic Ave. I agree the Concourse line is too
close to the Jerome Ave IRT, I'd have built it under Webster Ave and I'd have connected the post WWII 3rd Ave el above Fordham to it in the 1950's.

Some things I'd have done but which were not in any plan:

- Connect the IRT Broadway line into the New York Central Getty Square branch, which would provide subway service directly to Yonkers

- Built a flying junction north of Jay St. so that both 6th and 8th Ave services could run to either the Culver or Fulton St lines (like at 59th St)

- Connect the Crosstown line to the Court St. stub so that it doesn't crowd the Smith St. IND

- Convert the Queens Blvd line to a 6 track subway line between Kew Gardens (the terminal for all locals) and 36th St with a major express station at Woodhaven Blvd where the Rockaway line would merge. Roosevelt Ave would be a minor express station where only 4 of the 6 tracks would be served. Local stations would be served by Crosstown and 53rd/6th Ave (current V) trains, the expresses would run from 8th Ave, 6th Ave and Broadway. One of these lines would branch off to run to Rockaway (probably the F)

- Connect the SIR to lower Manhattan with a direct tunnel via Governer's Island. Trains would then run north either via the West Side IRT or the Broadway BMT

- Route the Flushing line to Whitestone via the old LIRR branch, though not all the way to it's former terminal

- Replace the Manhattan bridge tracks with tunnels, further south so that the first express stop on the Broadway line would be City Hall (upper level, lower level would be for the locals). The trains which would have run on the north side tracks would feed the SAS and the first stop on that in Manhattan would be Chatham Sq

- Extend the Astoria line to Laguardia

- Connect the Fulton St. IND to the Jamaica Ave el near Cypress Hills (extending the line under Fulton from ENY). A trains would run from Inwood to Jamaica/180th St

- Extend the New Lots IRT east to Euclid Ave and then north to connect to the former BMT el. IRT service would then run to Lefferts Blvd

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