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Re: Design your own line/SAS via Nassau/125th Streets |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 20 05:50:51 2008, in response to Re: Design your own IND Re: G Train to be cut back to Court Square permanently, posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jan 20 03:06:11 2008. This is something I agree wholeheartedly on, and have said so numerous times:As noted, it would accomplish a few goals, including: 1. An SAS line parallel to the 4/5 lines from at least 125th to Atlantic-Pacific [hopefully reducing the crowding and making the Montague tunnel well used]. Probably the most important part. Regardless of whether the Water Street line gets built or not, this branch of the SAS would do wonders for lower Manhattan aside from the biggest asset in having a branch of the SAS to lower Manhattan much earlier than the Water Street branch will be ready. 2. An SAS line w/a connection to Brooklyn. Again, taking pressure off the 4/5, and also the R train, especially since such a line would likely be a full-time replacement for the M train in downtown and 4th Avenue Brooklyn as by the time the SAS could be connected to the Nassau Street Line, the M and V could very well be combined into a single line up 6th avenue. 3. Saving countless $ billions on not having to build a new tunnel into Brooklyn and perhaps less of a need to build the Water St segment [should the funds dry up] [Don't get me wrong, such a line would be useful down there, but they could just take the Nassau line if it is used by the SAS since the current lines [J/M/Z are underused there] No kidding, and again, by then, the MTA could very well see the light and have the M/V be a single line. That would make an SAS line to Brooklyn without a new tunnel even more important. Saying that, the Water Street Phase 4 should still be done, with as noted in other threads before a new tunnel to Brooklyn that can connect to the Fulton Street line via the current Transit Museum (turning Court Street back into a regular subway station). 4. Finally [similar to point 1], the SAS would be more desirable than the J/M/Z in the SAS would take ppl north towards Midtown and the UES over just the Broadway El to Brooklyn/Queens. Absolutely, and again, by the time Phase 3 of the SAS is built, the M train might no longer be going to lower Manhattan anyway, but instead combined with the V and going up 6th avenue, so that would if so make an SAS train on Nassau even more important. On top of all of that, the Nassau Street line connection to the SAS would also allow the Q train to be able to go via 2nd avenue and the Montauge tunnel if necessary due to a G.O. or the Broadway Line being jacked up. Like with a connection to the Nassau Street Line, I would look at making the run on 125th street a full-fledged crosstown with additional stops after Lexington Avenue at Lenox Avenue (2/3 transfer), 8th/St. Nicholas Avenue (A/B/C/D) and Broadway (1) before terminating near the Hudson River at Riverside Drive. In addition, I would have a connection to the 8th avenue line at 8th/St. Nicholas Avenue to potentially have an SAS line go via that to either 168th or 207th in Manhattan or to the Concourse Line in The Bronx. Such an extension could be very important with the severe expansion of Columbia University that is coming over the next decade. |
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