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Re: Set Your VCR

Posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Mon Feb 12 10:45:40 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 11 21:15:17 2007.

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In Chicago, 2 line were placed down expressway medians in the 1960s, and one in the late 1970s. Robert Moses did his stuff 20-30 years earlier. Also, the Congress Line replaced a falling apart line, the Dan Ryan and O'Hare lines were much later, and one was for one of the largest airports in the world.

The purpose of the Cross Bronx is to get people from New Jersey to Eastern Westchester and Connecticut. Why would a subway help there? Why would one want to build a highway that didn't connect the GW Bridge to the N.England Thruway? The LIE possibly could use a subway but how many people live near the LIE? Where would you put those 50,000 car garages? Would you want people taking city streets to the Queens-Midtown Tunnel? Why would you build a highway that didn't connect to the Q-M Tunnel? What if a person wants to go from Suffolk County to somewhere other than midtown Manhattan or Horace Harding Blvd? Subways connect crowded neighborhoods to crowded neighborhood. Highways connect everywhere to everywhere. A clear NYC example is the West Shore Expressway. I doubt that many people want to get off at the Garbage Dump. Its purpose is to connect the Outerbridge Crossing to the Verrazano Bridge.

New York (like Philadelphia) has had a a few commonsense ROWs, like the the shorelines and the east-west corridors connecting the bridges and tunnels. In Philadelphia, the Delaware and Schuylkill Expressways were natural locations. The Vine St. was logical because of the BF Bridge. While designing them is difficult, picking the locations sometimes is not so hard. Some get built, like the Vine St., some don't get built, like the Canal St. Expressway in NYC or I-78 near Bway or Bushwick Avenue to the Jackie Robinson Parkway.

Two final examples are 1)the Prospect Expressway, built int the 1950s. While many homes disappeared on 17th St. and Prospect Avenue, it connected Ocean Parkway to the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel, and eased the traffic on many one-way streets and in Prospect Park. 2) I bet you can look at a map and see where the Clearview Expressway in Queens is missing a one-mile section that would safely and happily connect it with the Belt Parkway, but instead ends early and fills a few one-way streets with tons of traffic.

The choice is often between building and not building, but where they go is often dictated by geography and current infrastructure.



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