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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 10 16:08:16 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by PATHman on Sat Feb 10 14:28:39 2007.

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It's funny how you mentioned parkways. Moses intentionally built parkways in upscale areas so lower class citizens couldn't use public transportation to get to those areas.

The parkways were built THROUGH wilderness and farmland TO the parks. It was meant for people from the city to drive to the parks. The neighborhoods that sprung up around them were AFTER the parkways were there already.

Only motorists using private transportation could get to those areas (Why do you think Jones Beach can only be accessed by parkways and not expressways?).

Are you on drugs? What do expressways have to do with Jones Beach? Why would you want trucks on the roads going to Jones Beach. And don't tell me buses, as many of the parkways were built before buses came into vogue. And back then, there weren't even many trucks either abck then yet. The overpasses were built low because they were built for cars. The expressways came later, when trucks and buses had a foothold. You are taking TODAY's mentality and technology, and trying to apply it to the 1930's and 40's.

It pisses me off when I see the blueprints for the IND 2nd System and I see how expansive the subway could've been had it not been for this conniving bigot.

Robert Moses didn't "destroy" the 2nd System. Blame the Great Depression and WWII for the casualty of the Second System. Technology also changed in those two decades between when the IND was being planned, and the Depression and the war were over. By then, technology was moving towards cars and motor vehicles like buses, not subways and trolleys. Attitude of people was different towards subways. They were looked at as "old fashioned". Why do you think they tore up thousands and thousands of miles of electric trolley track infastructure throughout the country? "Buses were 'modern'". Hindsight is 20/20, and unfortunately, again, you are taking today's attitude on public transit, and trying to fit it into a different era.

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