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Posted by Jsun21 on Sat Jul 20 09:19:03 2019, in response to Re: Why are MTA workers not striking due to tonight's conductor assault?, posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 20 07:36:58 2019. I see you're a fan of stretching the arguments to absurd lengths, the NYP get stories from sources the timing and contents of those stories an insider can connect dots and see that it isn't just random journalism.As for evidence, there is sufficient anecdotal evidence. The assaults generally occur when there is a face-to-face conflict with the public which for Railroad and Bus employees is fare collection, for the RTO workers its during dwells and face-to-face questions during delays. Most workers including myself will draw a correlation between fare evasion and assaults. The fare evasion itself is partly a function of poverty which has a relatively constant baseline level, the outstanding balance however is a function of people who feel entitled not to pay the fare. Their 'logic' is 'I pay taxes' or 'y'all screwed me last week you should give me a free ride' or 'y'all always late, I shouldn't have to pay if you can't do your job'. So let's go through a hypothetical scenario. "All tickets please!" "No" "Sir you must have a valid ticket to ride this train" "man f*** y'all, all you do is raise fares and screw us over I ain't paying" "Look if you're refusing to pay I'm going to have to call the police" *Passenger sucker punches Conductor* Now when that assault gets recorded, does it go down as fare dispute or systemic discontent. Of course there is little data on the matter from the MTA it's not information that is of any interest to head office. But it pours out of a lot of encounters that don't lead to assaults and ones that do. People down here are feeling very spiteful and vindictive. I once had a guy tell me while I was clearing out the train that he wasn't leaving because "you wasted five minutes of my time, I'm going to waste five minutes of yours" which I thought was hilarious, but needless to say he actually took out his watch and did it, completely screwing over the three trains behind us. No police response at our busy major station, however. No idea what's going on with that but there are plenty of places where you just know there won't be any help coming, and there are people who are aware of the same that choose those areas to act a fool...go figure. There is no useful comparison between 'regular' jobs and Public transportation. In one you're viewed as a cog in a big machine, as someone like them trying to get by. So there is some public sympathy and even so most disputes land along the lines of 'I want to speak to your manager'. As a public servant people think they own you and that you are personally subservient to their individual needs. https://gothamist.com/2018/12/24/mta_bus_drivers_assaulted.php https://jacksonheightspost.com/passenger-punches-queens-bus-driver-in-the-face-after-dispute-about-fare-fdny https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/06/why-wont-anyone-drive-the-bus/563555/ "They can't spare a few people to sit on every bus and train, which is what you'd need to perfectly deter all crimes against MTA employees." "No police force can guarantee crimes never happen. Providing a police escort to all MTA employees at all times is plainly impossible." There must be some glitch in the internet, I never said to cover every train or to eliminate all assaults, the point is they are higher than normal in a comparable period and have been for several years now with no apparent corrective action. If you're going to try to straw man and hyperbolize the arguments to this ridiculous degree I'm forced to believe you aren't capable of a genuine conversation on the matter. Also it is something that the MTA employees take seriously, this is an assault you heard about but there are numerous assaults every week across the agencies, not just the ones that make the paper, I don't have doubts that there will be a response from the Unions, it weighs too heavily on the minds of a lot of peoples minds. No one wants to go to work, encounter a problem they can't control and get spit on for it. You can minimize that concern all you want, but it simply isn't true. https://queenseagle.com/all/march-for-assaults-on-transit-workers http://bronx.news12.com/story/40692466/nyc-transit-workers-rally-outside-das-office-amid-safety-concerns http://nycitylens.com/2019/05/attacks-transit-workers-stir-fear-frustration/ |
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