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Posted by Jsun21 on Sun Jul 21 00:25:57 2019, in response to Re: Why are MTA workers not striking due to tonight's conductor assault?, posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 20 10:03:04 2019. The plural of anecdote is not data.Except there's no evidence that people attack transit workers because they're mad at the MTA. Perhaps, you should have asked for it then, you specifically stated evidence, but assuming you chose the wrong word here you go. The MTA has internal safety numbers that very clearly indicate the assaults on Railroad and RTO staff have gone up. T/O is up 50% from 2017-18, Conductors went up by about 3%. It is conclusive that assaults on Conductors/Train staff are up based solely on the number of incidents that lead to lost productivity. The total assault number is obscured and deflated by the fact that most events do not make it into the annual report when they do not effect the bottom-line. You implied that a change in MTA policy could have prevented these assaults No, that's an extrapolation, I responded to your claim that crime on the MTA is completely out of MTA control, which is false as the MTA has a police department in its direct chain of command and can choose how to deploy those resources. The fact that it doesn't pursue the use of MTAPD on the subways among other things is what needs to be changed. My point is the MTA needs to have an aggressive approach in the known locations where assaults routinely occur and that the harassment, the fact that someone was able to assault a Conductor at Stillwell and escape when the station is within walking distance of two precincts is very telling of the level of cooperation between MTA and NYPD. The NYPD isn't primarily concerned with the protection of the MTA and Police response is normally down the stairs at the end of the station or down the block and around the corner so a perp can easily escape in the time it takes to... Radio for help-->have Dispatch call 911-->911 calls Police Dispatch--->Local Unit Responds. Lots of perps know this at least on an unconscious level and continuing to lack a police presence is only going to allow things to continue. The NYPD needs to incorporate the platform into their patrol more frequently and if they're unwilling then the MTAPD needs to take up that task. You can't necessarily make that conclusion. [...snip]You can't just assume people's motivations en masse. I'm simply going off of what the fare beaters tell me or say to other members of my crew, no assumption required. Fare evasion is a nonviolent petty offense and often a crime of poverty. It has nothing to do with assault. Except there's no evidence that people attack transit workers because they're mad at the MTA As you would say, citation needed, and the DOT would disagree with you. In fact they cite dissatisfaction with service and delays as the first reason in their report, which is corroborated by the information broadcast daily for reported delays. https://www.transit.dot.gov/sites/fta.dot.gov/files/Final_TRACS_Assaults_Report_14-01_07_06_15_pdf_rv6.pdf It makes several recommendations about how best to deploy Police resources to create effective deterrents Is a typical transit worker more likely to be assaulted than a typical convenience store employee The short answer is yes. 40% More likely to be the victim of intentional violence per the BLS https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/osh/case/ostb4370.pdf The criminal justice reference service even pins the number at 50% more likely per 1000 employees. https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/ncvrw/2017/images/en_artwork/Fact_Sheets/2017NCVRW_WorkplaceViolence_508.pdf Have you ever worked retail? Yep, worked in retail, tourist traps, non-profits, Commercial Airlines and Railroading. Had more run ins in transport by far and away, people feeling trapped and out of control in a situation that they already view as vaguely dangerous turns even average/good people into monsters in a way that doesn't affect most people when it comes to TVs and low end laptops. What's your Public Transit work experience btw since we're getting personal? Even without the dubiously-constitutional Taylor law, there's no chance a union would call a strike simply because one of its members was assaulted on the job by one rando once. Yes but the TWU already believes that this is part of a rampant increase so characterizing it as a one off bolt from the blue is not accurate at all. As far as no Union calling for a strike over assaults, Detroit would like to have a word with you https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/191879-detroit-bus-drivers-strike-over-assaults- TWU worker safety is a big item in every contract, if things break down anything could happen and safety will of course have a big contribution. Will there be a strike over these two incidents, no unlikely, but eventually if the protests don't work, it does reach a tipping point where the workers take direct action and then Politicians have to intervene from the top-down. Especially ambitious Politicians who need to make the impression they have everything under control to advance their careers. "You can minimize that concern all you want" Now who's using straw man arguments? No one on this side of the internet, you've said it's a petty crime either in reference to a murder or assaulting Transportation personnel in the line of duty, which is literally minimizing the crime since it is a D felony, not a petty offense. Your second point also states that crime is historically low, either you're referring to crimes against civilians which is not what the OP is discussing or it is in reference to the number of RTO assaults in which case that is false. |
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