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Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal

Posted by ro_jo on Tue Oct 30 10:56:40 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Oct 30 10:00:17 2018.

Tracks 38-42 all merge into the upper loop. This is why all Amtraks discharged on track 38 this summer.

On the east side, the loop feeds back into tracks 1-3. These are not passenger tracks, they lie East of the storage tracks 4-10. All of 1-10 feed in to the east side ladders (M and O).
In the trackway, near the east end of the upper level loop (on the ceiling) you can see the underside of the NYCT staircase connecting the North End of the 456 concourse to the "Lexington Passage" of GCT. The mezzanine of that station is pretty geometrically constrained due to the loop.

What remains of the lower level loop is known as track 200. Also used for train storage. The remaining track is intact from the (north) end of its intersection with track 101, all the way south past "MP0"/the point where it would be tangent with 42nd st. I'd say ~100 degrees of loop is intact. As was said elsewhere, the inner level loop track is nearly completely gone with GCT and ESA facilities sitting directly in the former trackway.

Personally I think the lower level loop trackway from Madison Yard (ESA Concourse) to the point of tangency with the NYCT facilities should be turned into a pedestrian concourse, to provide a little more connectivity to the new ESA facilities. It's not clear to me how deep the LL loop is, it's possible it actually is far enough down that it would connect beneath the 456 track level, perhaps to the mid-point mezzanine where the escalators on the west end of the 7 platform turn around.

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