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Re: Second Av Subway Ridership Growing Rapidly

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Feb 2 04:45:14 2017, in response to Re: Second Av Subway Ridership Growing Rapidly, posted by Michael549 on Wed Feb 1 16:43:54 2017.

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I question your statement: "These extra trains could have been short turned at 3rd Ave-138th St."

In the midst of the #6 Pelham Bay Express trains using the middle track and merging west of the station to the downtown track along with Parkchester local trains - a series of trains are also supposed to use the middle track/platform to terminate and relay trains at the peak am rush hour periods. I doubt it.


Is that your own alternate fact, or did you accept it from another source?

Here's the current schedule for Grand Central arrivals. The columns are the trip id, route, first stop, when it departs from that stop and its Grand Central arrival time. It covers the morning peak from 7 to 10 am for Grand Central arrivals.

"trip id";"route";"first stop";"departs";"GC arrival:
"038000_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"06:20:00";"07:01:30"
"038900_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"06:29:00";"07:06:00"
"038800_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"06:28:00";"07:09:30"
"039650_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"06:36:30";"07:13:30"
"039500_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"06:35:00";"07:17:30"
"040000_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"06:40:00";"07:21:30"
"040850_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"06:48:30";"07:25:30"
"040800_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"06:48:00";"07:29:30"
"041600_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"06:56:00";"07:33:30"
"041400_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"06:54:00";"07:37:30"
"041900_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"06:59:00";"07:42:30"
"042750_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"07:07:30";"07:46:30"
"042650_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:06:30";"07:50:00"
"043500_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"07:15:00";"07:54:00"
"043400_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:14:00";"07:57:30"
"044200_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"07:22:00";"08:01:00"
"043950_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:19:30";"08:04:00"
"044250_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:22:30";"08:06:00"
"045050_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"07:30:30";"08:10:30"
"044900_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:29:00";"08:13:30"
"045650_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"07:36:30";"08:16:30"
"045450_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:34:30";"08:19:30"
"046150_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"07:41:30";"08:22:00"
"045850_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:38:30";"08:24:30"
"046200_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:42:00";"08:27:00"
"046950_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"07:49:30";"08:30:00"
"046550_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:45:30";"08:32:30"
"047500_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"07:55:00";"08:35:30"
"047250_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:52:30";"08:38:30"
"047650_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"07:56:30";"08:41:30"
"048350_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"08:03:30";"08:44:00"
"048000_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:00:00";"08:46:00"
"048350_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:03:30";"08:48:30"
"049100_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"08:11:00";"08:51:00"
"048800_6..S08R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:08:00";"08:53:00"
"049550_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"08:15:30";"08:55:30"
"049300_6..S08R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:13:00";"08:57:30"
"050000_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"08:20:00";"08:59:30"
"052000_6..S06R";"6";"3 Av - 138 St";"08:40:00";"09:02:00"
"050000_6..S08R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:20:00";"09:04:00"
"050750_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"08:27:30";"09:06:30"
"050550_6..S08R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:25:30";"09:09:30"
"053100_6..S06R";"6";"3 Av - 138 St";"08:51:00";"09:12:30"
"051650_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"08:36:30";"09:15:30"
"051500_6..S08R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:35:00";"09:19:00"
"052400_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"08:44:00";"09:22:30"
"052200_6..S08R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:42:00";"09:26:00"
"054850_6..S06R";"6";"3 Av - 138 St";"09:08:30";"09:30:00"
"053500_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"08:55:00";"09:33:00"
"053200_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"08:52:00";"09:36:30"
"054300_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"09:03:00";"09:40:00"
"054000_6..S02R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"09:00:00";"09:44:30"
"055200_6..S03R";"6";"Parkchester";"09:12:00";"09:49:00"
"055050_6..S08R";"6X";"Pelham Bay Park";"09:10:30";"09:53:00"
"057700_6..S06R";"6";"3 Av - 138 St";"09:37:00";"09:57:00"

You will note that the Grand Central arrivals at 9:02:00, 9:12:30, 9:30:00 and 9:57:00 originated from the 3rd Ave - 138th St station.



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