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Re: Second Av Subway Ridership Growing Rapidly

Posted by Michael549 on Thu Feb 2 11:11:17 2017, in response to Re: Second Av Subway Ridership Growing Rapidly, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Feb 2 04:45:14 2017.

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There are several assumptions that you made but I only pointed to one of them.

Your words in context:

"Let's assume that all the SAS entries would have used the downtown Lex. The same load levels could have been achieved with the addition of a max of 7 tph on the local track during the peak 8-9am hour.

These extra trains could have been short turned at 3rd Ave-138th St.

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You gave us the train schedule, where you said, "It covers the morning peak from 7 to 10 am for Grand Central arrivals."

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I questioned your statement: "These extra trains could have been short turned at 3rd Ave-138th St."

In the midst of the #6 Pelham Bay Express trains using the middle track and merging west of the station to the downtown track along with Parkchester local trains - a series of trains are also supposed to use the middle track/platform to terminate and relay trains at the peak am rush hour periods. I doubted it.

I doubted it due to the layout of the station and the amount of trains traveling through there at certain times, especially the busy am rush hours.

I will grant that between the peak 8-9am hour, that two #6 trains - one at 8:40am, and another at 8:51an both depart during those times of 8-9am. (Per your schedule - "052000_6..S06R";"6";"3 Av - 138 St";"08:40:00";"09:02:00", and "053100_6..S06R";"6";"3 Av - 138 St";"08:51:00";"09:12:30") - both depart during those times of 8-9am.

You then pointed to the following #6 trains: "054850_6..S06R";"6";"3 Av - 138 St";"09:08:30";"09:30:00" and "057700_6..S06R";"6";"3 Av - 138 St";"09:37:00";"09:57:00" - which could be argued exist outside of the peak am rush hour periods but exist on the shoulder periods.

You will note that in your own schedule from 6:20m until 8:40am - THERE ARE NO - ZERO trains that depart from 3rd Ave-138th St."

Mike



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