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Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens?

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Feb 5 07:48:56 2016, in response to J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens?, posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 21:46:41 2016.

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I like this idea. In my observations of the Brown M's later days, decent numbers of people used it between Essex and Marcy, and between Broad and Court. But VERY few seemed to ride from Court to Essex.

So- perhaps the 4th Avenue local situation could be resolved with a new brown R- but to avoid confusion, let's call it the X. It can run between Chambers and 9th Ave., rush hours only.

I'd also love to see full peak-direction express service on Broadway-Brooklyn. But that may be more the rail fan in me. Is it really needed? I'll take your word that it is. With that in mind, it seems a little illogical (to me) to turn around a south Brooklyn service at Chambers and simultaneously a north Brooklyn service at Broad St. So maybe, it is most sensible to run a through service. In that case, to avoid confusion, here's what I'd do:

1) Run the J, full-time local between JC and Broad. Real simple.
2) Run the Z peak-direction only, full express on Broadway, to Broad St.
3) AM Rush- At Broad St, the Z appears to "terminate" on the map, but in fact, the trainsets get re-signed as the X to 9th Ave. Incoming X trains from Brooklyn become the J, and head back to JC
4) PM rush- At broad St- Incoming X trains from Brooklyn become the J. A selected number of J trains coming from Queens become the Brooklyn-bound X

With NTTs, changing the signs is a simple thing. The public is simply told that the X operates bi-directionally as a rush hour local between 9th Avenue and Broad Street (via 4th Ave), while the Z is peak-direction express between Broad and Jamaica Center. Only TA employees and railfans such as us will know that X and Z trains are the same thing.


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