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Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?

Posted by Michael549 on Mon Dec 28 11:16:36 2015, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 28 04:53:45 2015.

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When I thought about having the N & Q trains traveling to 96th Street/Second Avenue from their respective terminals at Coney Island, it was with the understanding that the N & Q trains would travel the full route. This would help make the operations easier.

When I thought about having the W train revived, it was with the idea that the W would run 24/7/365 between Astoria and Whitehall Street. However during the rush hours to provide the Astoria service and frequencies needed - additional W-trains would be placed into/out of service at the Canal Street/City Hall layup area, and from the 9th Avenue station in Brooklyn. In addition during the midnight hours - the W train would be extended to Brooklyn completely local via Sea Beach to Coney Island, replacing the N-train. The usual midnight hour R train shuttle would run as usual.

At the time I wondered about the train requirements for the various services, etc. I get the feeling that extending, for example the W-train to Coney Island rush hours, or short-turn N-trains at 57th Street begins to make very complicated what was proposed as a simple set up. Besides increasing the number of subway trains needed for this setup.

If the reality is that just a few additional N-trains are needed along the Astoria line to have the same frequency of service of the current combined N & Q trains there - then there's no "need" for the revival of the W-train.

If only a few additional N-trains are needed to Astoria - then the entire switching / merging operations of the N & R trains can be made much simpler. Just have the N & R trains local in Manhattan with the Q-trains having exclusive usage of the express tracks, except for the segment from Canal Street to DeKalb Avenue.

Just some ideas.
Mike

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