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Posted by WillD on Sat Aug 29 23:21:49 2015, in response to Re: SI Railway - no new cars till 2020 - NY1 video, posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 29 07:15:12 2015. Battles with FRA and UTU are battles, regardless of LRT.But they're made a lot easier if you're removing the rail line from the national network. The FRA is going to argue that by replacing the R44s with similar subway cars there is no sufficient reason to change the status of the line. But by going to LRVs there will be more than sufficient cause to remove the line from the national network, which should have been done decades ago. People are not going to dawdle off the Ferry and evenly distribute themselves between the 2 trains. Who said anything about distributing themselves evenly? An LRV based train isn't going to be half that of a 4 car R44 train. It'll be somewhere on the order of 66-80% that capacity, which will allow passengers to crowd one train or another. If the Ferry is late, you can't jam them all on the later train. Actually, you could. A 4 car R44 carries 720 passengers. A 3 car train of NJT Kinki-Sharyos would be slightly shorter and hold 600 passengers. Going to an LRV which is a bit larger would close that gap. I DID say Secaucus - Times Square will take 16 minutes because the Parsons report said so. Oh good, so you do know what numbers are and how to do a quantitative assessment. I also said your LRT scheme AVERAGES 2 minutes over the lenght of the route savings, not 5 minutes savings. That's not how a change in schedule time is computed. It's entirely erroneous to claim that just because 2 minutes are saved at the midpoint then 5 minutes aren't saved at the end points. It's still 5 minutes, your attempts to sandbag the numbers that don't support your baseless claims aside. Your alleged lightweight LRV for SIR is purely imaginary. It is neither an NJT nor NFTA car. So you can't claim anything about better performance. I haven't specified a particular model because you could easily go to Alstom, Bombardier, Siemens, CAF, Stadler, or almost anyone else and get them to build you an LRV which has a 42" floor, 60 to 80 mph top speed, and accelerates at 3mph/s. They'd more than likely be able to build those cars based on one of their existing designs, thereby saving significant amounts over custom NYCT cars. In case you haven't notice, WMATA does not buy lightweight, aero-aluminum, telescopic junk anymore, but heavier, stainless cars. You do realize the R160s are 1.4klbs/ft, while the WMATA 7000s are 1.0klbs/ft, right? A difference of nearly 150% is a very significant increase. Yes we can change gear ratios and still preserve adequate speeds. SIR trains need not go 70MPH. No. You cannot. That might be an option if they were to go with an extensive rebuild. But there is no way anyone would contemplate doing it to whatever cars awaiting the scrap line that SIRT may get in the interim. |
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