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Re: The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Nov 25 10:32:01 2014, in response to The Time for Reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Line is Now, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 24 17:16:50 2014.

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Here are a couple absurdities regarding this report.

1. According to the study, restoration ...would generate as many as 500,000 daily riders.

The typical number of weekday unlinked trips on the entire LIRR was 334,093 in 2012. The RBB, with only 5 new stations is supposed to generate almost 50% more trips than the entire LIRR.

2. “Next to Staten Island, Queens has the worst public transit in the city. However, Queens is much more populated than Staten Island so the need for faster improved transit service is greatest in Queens. There are very limited subways in Queens;

Many Queens areas are not within 1/2 mile of a subway station. However, the area around the RBB already has excellent subway coverage. The Brooklyn Manor, Woodhaven Jct and Ozone Park stations are within 1/2 mile of an existing A or J/Z station. Most of the area around the Rego Park Station is within 1/2 mile of either the 63rd Drive or Woodhaven Blv M/R Stations. Only the area around the Parkside Station lies further than 1/2 mile from an existing subway station. Parkside is 1 mile from the E/F/M/R Continental Ave station.

History shows that people will opt for cheaper subways when given a choice between the subway and the more expensive LIRR. Queens was an exclusive LIRR territory before the Dual Contracts. Competition from the subways caused the LIRR to close stations and abandon lines. The slide from profitability to abandonment could be quite swift. The Whitestone Branch was abandoned 4 years after the subway was extended to Flushing. The same pattern was repeated in the Bronx, where the NYC and NH stations provided profitable service before the Dual Contract subways came.

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