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Re: A Historical Hudson Line Question

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 01:01:43 2012, in response to Re: A Historical Hudson Line Question, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon May 14 00:38:17 2012.

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Well ... like I said, it's the agency attorneys who ultimately write the detailed specifications, and engineers be damned. :)

Here's an amusing example of the stupid that I fought unsuccessfully at the NYPSC ... in an electrical installation, you have hot, neutral and GROUND. Specification of ground is to clamp to a 10 foot (I argued 20 given soil conditions in many spots) stake driven into the ground and attached to the entry cold water service pipe. All well and good for nearly a hundred years.

But wait ... what's this? Municipalities installing PLASTIC water service meters. Oh-kay ... so NOW, with plastic meter in between the street and the cold water piping inside the residence, with the breaker box grounded to the cold water pipe inside the residence, what now happens to that "ground?" Lawyer eyes glaze over.

I argue that you've now lifted the house from ground (since the exterior stake is usually connected by a short runner to the OUTSIDE water service pipe that's now on the OTHER side of that plastic meter and now Biff and Bunny Homeowner have NO ground at all and have to believe in neutral being such. Not happening!

My stake in this had to do with cable television which is also required to be grounded and bonded for electrical safety that is connected to the SAME ground as the electrical cabinet ... nothing!

Needless to say, it took an awful lot of house fires and lightning strikes before anyone there would listen to me. And my wigs and other engineers. Nope ... the lawyers and the politicos were master electricians ... my ass. :(

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