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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Jan 21 11:16:25 2011, in response to Re: Sea Beach, Culver, Brighton, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 21 10:08:49 2011. Hi Howard: Nice to hear from you. From the perspective of a young railfan in the 1960's we still viewed the subway as three separate divisions and the equipment was viewed as such.The R-10's were IND, specifically A train, 8th Avenue Subway, hands down, no if, ands or buts. Of course some of the R-10's had already seen service on the BMT #15 Jamaica Line, that was in the dim past of the 1950's. If you were lucky though you might catch the occasional R-10 train on the AA or BB. The R-11's were considered to be BMT cars even though they had been built as prototypes for the 2nd Avenue Subway. They made they first passenger run on the BMT #1 Brighton Line but then they were assigned to the IND. They did run on the F express and this may have been the only time that all ten cars ran together. They were transfered back to the BMT in 1954. As built they could not mu with the rest of the fleet and eventually were laid up out of service. One car 8010 was modified and returned to service to take the place of R-16 6494 which was wrecked in 1957. All ten cars were overhaul from 1964 to 1965 and eventually returned to service usually on the BMT but on at least one occasion they ran on the post-Chrystie Street "B" train carrying #3 signs. Many referred to these cars as the last of the BMT experimentals inheritors of the lineage of the Green Hornet and the Zephyr. The R-16's were considered BMT cars even though they opened the service on the IND Rockaway Line. They were almost always found on the #15 Jamaica Line and on the #14 as well. The R-27/30/30A were of course BMT Southern Division cars. They replaced the unrebuilt Standards and to the best of my knowledge never ran in passenger service on the Eastern Division prior to the opening of the Chrystie Street Line. The R-32A/32's were thought of as BMT cars as well. They also were assigned to the BMT Southern Divison as well and it was these cars that spelled the end of the Triplexes." The R-38's came in as IND cars in the summer of 1966. This was the summer of the great maintenance meltdown at the IND Jamaica Yard. The first twenty cars on the property were pressed into service on the E and F lines on August 23, 1966. The Chrystie Street Line opened on November 26, 1967 effectively merging the IND and BMT Divisions. The next new cars to come in were the R-40's in March 1968 and they made their first runs on the 6th Avenue F train. I spent the next year of so in South Dakota helping Uncle Sam guard the US from an invasion by Canada so others will have to pick up the narrative from there. As I said at the beginning this was a subjective observation from someone who was out there riding the trains at the time. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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