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Re: Sea Beach, Culver, Brighton

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Jan 21 12:24:51 2011, in response to Re: Sea Beach, Culver, Brighton, posted by rbseabeach on Fri Jan 21 11:26:43 2011.

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If the Brighton was the #1 what was the IRTSeventh Avenue Local called?

There were two separate numbering systems for the BMT and IRT routes.
The BMT numbering system dates back to at least 1925 and the "D" Type-Triplexes were the BMT cars to carry route numbers. The IRT numbering system dates to 1947 when the R-12 cars were delivered.

The BMT numbers were:
# 1 - Brighton
# 2 - 4th Avenue
# 3 - West End
# 4 - Sea Beach
# 5 - Culver
# 6 - 5th Avenue (Bklyn)(El)
# 7 - Franklin Avenue (Also Brighton-Franklin and Franklin-Nassau)
# 8 - Astoria (Shuttle)
# 9 - Flushing (Shuttle)
# 10 - Myrtle Avenue - Chambers Street
# 11 - Myrtle Avenue (El)
# 12 - Lexington Avenue (Bklyn) (El)
# 13 - Fulton Street (El)
# 14 - Broadway - Brooklyn (aka Broadway Short Line)
# 15 - Jamaica
# 16 - 14 Street

The IRT numbers were
# 1 - Broadway - 7th Avenue
# 2 - 7th Avenue - Bronx
# 3 - 7th Avenue - Lenox
# 4 - Lexington - Jerome
# 5 - Lexington - White Plains Road
# 6 - Lexington - Pelham
# 7 - Flushing
# 8 - Astoria
# 9 - Dyre Avenue

From 1923 to 1949 the Flushing Line (Corona Line until 1928) and the Astoria Line were jointly operated by the BMT and the IRT. This joint
operation began before the BMT had started to assign route numbers and once it did they cars that ran on these lines, Gates and later Q's did not carry route numbers anyway. The first IRT cars to carry route numbers were the R-12's and they began service on the Flushing Line in July 1948. So for a 13 month period until the end of joint service in October 1949 you had BMT #8 and IRT #8 trains service the Astoria Line and BMT #9 and IRT # 7 trains serving the Flushing Line.

IRT Route 8 was assigned to the 3rd Avenue El trains in November 1967 until that line was discontinued in April 1973.

IRT Route 9 was used by the Dyre Avenue- 180 Street Local trains until
April 1965 when the entire service became part of the #5 Line. Through service to Manhattan by # 2 trains had begun in May 1957 and ran from about 6AM to 8PM. The late night shuttles continued to carry #9 signs.

IRT Route 9 was also used by alternate Broadway-7 Avenue Local trains from 1989 to 2005 when skip-stop service was in use on the Broadway Line north of 137 Street.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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