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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 7 14:55:53 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 14:19:59 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If Arafat had wanted to make peace with the Israelis, he could have made peace with the Israelis. He didn't. Enough said.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 7 15:02:04 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 08:09:37 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thanks for attacking.

Very angry and hostile you are. I have to wonder if you put some weight back on. How is the Spider-Pig diet going? You have abandoned that thread.

There is nothing wrong with listening to Prager-Hewitt-Medved. Great minds.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 7 15:21:09 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 00:39:42 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Someone asked Mandela once why he had relationships with Communists. His reply: "They were the only ones helping us."

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 7 15:23:35 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 7 01:53:40 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Our Founding Fathers were arguably terrorists as well.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 15:37:25 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 7 15:02:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Or so you believe.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 16:14:42 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 7 15:02:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Let's call this the "Terrapin Element" in honor of BMTLines.

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Re: Mandela, Jews, & "Palestinians" Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 16:22:09 2013, in response to Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 7 12:50:52 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That settles it; he was anti-Israel. Thanks for confirming it.

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Dec 7 17:01:35 2013, in response to Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 7 12:50:52 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not too surprising, given that Mandela's primary help came from Soviet Jews. It is that that makes me think that his alliance with Communists was at least initially made out of circumstance than actual agreement with their platform...noting that the Western world didn't really pay attention until the early 1980s. Had any Western country paid attention sooner, I think that there may have been a different result. Mandela never really forgave Israel (or the West) for ignoring apartheid for so long.

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 17:11:58 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 7 13:27:54 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
i.e. not chicagomotorman. Conservatives don't do nuance.

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Dec 7 17:17:14 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 17:11:58 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Conservatives do perform nuanced thought. Chicagomotorman isn't one...he doesn't even know how to think for himself (or at least he plays that).

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Dec 7 18:09:55 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by SMAZ on Sat Dec 7 10:27:47 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not fair, that's Ringo Starr in costume ! :)

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 7 18:26:22 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 7 15:23:35 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah, the Brits didn't seem to be too pleased with them. :)

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 20:26:21 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 7 14:55:53 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So we both agree he's in a very warm place now.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by bingbong on Sat Dec 7 20:41:01 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 7 15:02:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Prager-Hewitt-Medved have NO minds. Stop listening to those hater morons.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 21:18:44 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by SMAZ on Sat Dec 7 10:27:47 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What's unusual about a RINO being buddy-buddy with terrorists? Nobody can argue like that's a strange thing.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 21:46:09 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by bingbong on Sat Dec 7 20:41:01 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He'll listen to whoever he wants to listen to.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by bingbong on Sat Dec 7 22:00:52 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 21:46:09 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
At the peril of his own brain. I'm trying to help him. He needs help. Don't interfere.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 22:01:19 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 21:18:44 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
is there any republican the currently holds office that isn't a RINO?

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 22:11:19 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by bingbong on Sat Dec 7 22:00:52 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
By having him watch msnbc?

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 22:20:40 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 20:26:21 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, I doubt that he believes that. Unlike you, his beliefs are Jewish.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 22:22:40 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 7 15:21:09 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
no one helped..

the movement began in NEW YORK..in a HARLEM CHURCH..spread to Brooklyn..then all over..Howard University was practically hounded into divesting its interest..along with others..
soon S.A was an embarrassment to the world.

no one wanted to deal with what was happening to those people..they didn't care..even today..with tools like OLOG..They don't understand what "by any means necessary" truly means..they only understand ideology and foolishness..not what someone would do out of desperation.

As we can see from history,instead of going in,and returning the favor the whites were so freely dealing..he went above and beyond to join the the whole country together.
that is a lesson we all can learn.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 7 22:27:06 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 22:22:40 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 22:30:48 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 01:04:43 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
THIS IS why the REPUBLICAN PARTY SHOULDN'T EXIST.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 22:32:39 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by bingbong on Sat Dec 7 12:26:54 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL!
TYPICAL..cellar dwellers are stupid.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 22:46:41 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 01:02:41 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
neither are you..
theres nothing "civil" about you..
you are never "right" about anything..

yet you are here..seeking attention..trolling like usual.
you must be a lonely ass dude.

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Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 22:47:03 2013, in response to Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Dec 5 17:03:08 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
BDLive

SACP confirms Nelson Mandela was a member

BY NATASHA MARRIAN, 06 DECEMBER 2013, 19:05
president Nelson Mandela was a member of the South African Communist Party’s (SACP’s) central executive committee at the time of his arrest in 1962, the SACP and the African National Congress (ANC) confirmed on Friday.

Even though it had always been denied, the ANC and the SACP confirmed that Mr. Mandela had served on the party’s central executive committee in their statements paying tribute to the anti-apartheid icon. There had been much debate about the issue among historians and academics.

SACP deputy general secretary Solly Mapaila on Thursday said he was a member of the party, but it was denied at the time for "political reasons".

"There was a huge offensive by the oppressive apartheid regime at the time against communists. They portrayed the ANC as a communist organization, but it was not," he said.

Mr. Mapaila said all the Rivonia Trialists were members of the party.

"At his arrest in August 1962, Nelson Mandela was not only a member of the then-underground South African Communist Party, but was also a member of our party’s central committee. To us as South African communists, Cde Mandela shall forever symbolize the monumental contribution of the SACP in our liberation struggle," the party said in a statement reacting to Mandela’s death.

"The contribution of communists in the struggle to achieve the South African freedom has very few parallels in the history of our country. After his release from prison in 1990, Cde Madiba became a great and close friend of the communists till his last days."

At the time Mandela was released from prison the Soviet Union was crumbling and there was "too much negativity around the Soviet system", Mr. Mapaila said.

"But we should not focus on that now; let us focus on resting the old man," he said.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 7 22:53:53 2013, in response to Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 22:47:03 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You have a gaping hole in your head besides your mouth.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 22:55:47 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 7 22:53:53 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're looking in the mirror.

Facts are facts. To hell with lies, and to hell with liars.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 22:56:36 2013, in response to Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 22:47:03 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
in think jeane kirkpatrick, irving kristol and norman podhoretz were still a communists in 1962

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 22:59:14 2013, in response to Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 22:47:03 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
you know who else was once a communist andrea merkel.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:00:04 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 22:56:36 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What precisely did Mandela do that started making him don the façade of a conservative, if you're going to compare with those kind of people with whom I do not identify? I remember nothing that he did. Certainly, the current constitution of South Africa, as much as it resembles the constitution of the former USSR, bears no such thing out.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 7 23:00:04 2013, in response to Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 22:47:03 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh, now you are believing Communists?

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:01:39 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:00:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Certainly, the current constitution of South Africa, as much as it resembles the constitution of the former USSR

you think everything resembles the USSR constitution.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95

Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 7 23:07:07 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95, posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 7 15:21:09 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Olog thinks he's Curtis LeMay.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95;B.F.D. That He Was A Communist

Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 7 23:14:08 2013, in response to Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 22:47:03 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He fought for freedom and equality and nobody gives a shit about who was a commie back in the 60's. This subthread is just another do-nothing chickenhawk asshole trying to deconstruct someone who did a good job.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:17:19 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95;B.F.D. That He Was A Communist, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 7 23:14:08 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Repeating lies doesn't make them the truth, no matter what your hero Goebbels said.

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 23:19:15 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 22:20:40 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oren, the question is yours to answer.

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:21:31 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 20:26:21 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
i thought jew didn't believe in hell

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 23:23:06 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:21:31 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sure we do.

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 23:23:51 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 23:19:15 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Shithead, this a public message board. If you only wanted his answer, you'd have emailed him.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 23:24:28 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:00:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
your insanity wont allow you to think outside of the "self righteous Conservative libertarian" box.

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 23:24:47 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:21:31 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Exactly. shandemotorman knows nothing of Judaism.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:28:08 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:01:39 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Being evasive again, I see.

Only takes a read of each constitution to see the similarities, and thus the inspiration of one to the other. I hope you don't go through your entire life ignorant.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95;B.F.D. That He Was A Communist

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 23:29:23 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95;B.F.D. That He Was A Communist, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 7 23:14:08 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
there you go..but you should have said "chickenhawk fucktard asshole loser with no life,who will only be remembered for being a dick..trying to deconstruct someone who did something important with their life."

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:31:00 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:28:08 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
could you explain how they're similar?

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 7 23:38:59 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 7 23:23:51 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Whats your answer?

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:52:26 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:31:00 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I take it you don't want to read them. I also take it that even if I did compare them line by line, you still wouldn't read them.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:54:50 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:52:26 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
i read the south African one and i didn't see anything in it that makes it seem communist. i don't care what the Soviet one says because the leaders of the soviet union didn't pay any attention to it.

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Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95.

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 7 23:56:47 2013, in response to Re: Mandela, Israelis, & Palestinians Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95., posted by DAnD124 on Sat Dec 7 23:21:31 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They don't.

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Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95; South African Communist Party confirms he was a member

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 7 23:57:45 2013, in response to Re: Nelson Mandela Has Died At 95;B.F.D. That He Was A Communist, posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 23:29:23 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Direct quote from Mandela:
“From its earliest days, the Cuban Revolution has also been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of the vicious imperialist-orchestrated campaign to destroy the impressive gain made in the Cuban Revolution….Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro.”
Fighting for freedom? Or something else?

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