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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 30 21:34:30 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 30 20:40:23 2019. The Man found a way back to Rhonny! |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jan 30 21:57:29 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 30 21:22:23 2019. I can't see much from the photos but they look like they could be the people that he described. Would they have released the photos if he hadn't at least said that they look like the guys that attacked him?I can't wait to hear why racist trump supporters would be targeting Empire. This seems like an epidsode from the show, which I stopped watching a long time ago. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jan 30 22:00:29 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 30 21:22:23 2019. I don't think anyone should assume that they're safe at all. Especially in Chicago.As a gay man would you feel better about being attacked by someone that voted for Hillary? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 30 22:27:52 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Wed Jan 30 21:57:29 2019. Empire is one Vincent’s picks. |
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Posted by DanD124 on Wed Jan 30 22:37:22 2019, in response to "This Is MAGA Country", posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 29 16:37:18 2019. https://wgntv.com/2019/01/30/no-footage-yet-of-alleged-attack-on-empire-actor-jussie-smollett-police-say/CHICAGO — Detectives reviewed surveillance footage of “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett walking to his downtown Chicago apartment, but so far none of the video shows him being attacked by two masked men, although investigators have obtained images of people they would like to question, a police spokesman said Wednesday. Spokesman Anthony Guglielmi tweeted photos of the “persons of interest” Wednesday evening. Investigators “for the most part” can confirm the route Smollett took early Tuesday when he says he was attacked along a street in the Streeterville neighborhood after visiting a sandwich shop, Guglielmi said. However, there are gaps, and none of the footage shows an attack, he said, although the review is ongoing. Smollett, who is black and gay and plays the gay character Jamal Lyon on the hit Fox television show, said the men beat him, subjected him to racist and homophobic insults, threw an “unknown chemical substance” on him and put a thin rope around his neck before fleeing. Guglielmi said detectives, who are investigating the allegations as a possible hate crime, have looked at hundreds of hours of surveillance video from businesses and hotels in the heavily monitored area. But he said they still need to collect and view more. He said they are expanding the search to include footage from public buses and buildings beyond the scene’s immediate vicinity in the hopes of spotting the men who match Smollett’s description of the suspects. “We haven’t seen anybody, at this point, matching the description he gave. Nobody looks menacing, and we didn’t find a container anywhere,” Guglielmi said, referring to a container for the liquid that the actor said was thrown at him. Smollett has not spoken publicly about the attack, but his representative told The Associated Press Wednesday night that the actor “is at home and recovering.” Now in its fifth season, the hourlong drama follows an African-American family as they navigate the ups and downs of the record industry. Smollett’s character is the middle son of Empire Entertainment founder Lucious Lyon and Cookie Lyon, played by Terrence Howard and Taraji P. Henson, respectively. After the attack, Smollett returned to his apartment, and his manager called police from there about 40 minutes later, Guglielmi said. When officers arrived, the actor had cuts and scrapes on his face and the rope around his neck that he said had been put there by his assailant, he said. The 36-year-old later went to Northwestern Memorial Hospital after police advised him to do so. The FBI is investigating a threatening letter targeting Smollett that was sent last week to the Fox studio in Chicago where “Empire” is filmed, Guglielmi said. The FBI did not immediately return a call seeking comment Wednesday. Bobby Rush, a Democratic congressman from Chicago, issued a statement calling on the agency to conduct “an immediate and sweeping civil rights investigation into the racist and homophobic attack.” In addition to his acting career, Smollett has a music career and is a noted activist, particularly on LBGTQ issues. Smollett’s representative said his concert scheduled for Saturday in Los Angeles will go on as planned. The report of the attack drew a flood of outrage and support for Smollett on social media. Among the many celebrities and politicians who weighed in was California Sen. Kamala Harris, a 2020 Democratic presidential hopeful who knows Smollett. She called the attack “outrageous” and “awful.” Some of the outrage stems from Smollett’s account to detectives that his attackers yelled that he was in “MAGA country,” an apparent reference to the Trump campaign’s “Make America Great Again” slogan. Chicago has one of the nation’s most sophisticated and extensive video surveillance systems, including thousands of cameras on street poles, skyscrapers, buses and in train tunnels. Police say the cameras have helped them make thousands of arrests. In one of the best-known examples of the department’s use of the cameras, investigators in 2009 were able to recreate a school board president’s 20-minute drive through the city, singling out his car on a succession of surveillance cameras to help them determine that he committed suicide and had not been followed and killed by someone else, as his friends speculated. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 30 22:39:16 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 30 21:22:23 2019. first the liberal MSM said "wearing MAGA hats".Then they were wearing ski masks and yelled, "this is MAGA country". The whole thing started with Daily Beast headlining with "MAGA hats" then it went to "MAGA hats". So far only footage is the victim walking alone. The FBI has footage from Target and SUBWAY but none of the attack, in a city that has super surveillance. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 30 22:51:02 2019, in response to Police to release images of persons of interest in attack on 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett, posted by DanD124 on Wed Jan 30 19:05:22 2019. if they release footage of someone who happened to be in the area, and this turns out to be a hoax, lawsuits galore.The reason there is no video is because it probably didn't happen. He probably got in to a fight at a gay bar. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jan 30 23:01:27 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by DanD124 on Wed Jan 30 22:37:22 2019. Try to keep up; there's already a thread on this topic. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jan 30 23:42:22 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Dave on Wed Jan 30 23:01:27 2019. Isn't this it? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 30 23:49:02 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Wed Jan 30 23:42:22 2019. Omega 6 fat penetrated his blood-brain barrier again. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jan 30 23:56:13 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 30 22:39:16 2019. It's very possible that he was attacked. But his story is so strange, maybe not. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until there's evidence to the contrary.But whether he was or wasn't attacked is almost irrelevant. People believe this is what trump supporters do regardless. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 30 23:59:10 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Wed Jan 30 23:56:13 2019. you're right.The story does not have to be true to be true. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 01:16:08 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 30 23:59:10 2019. Yep |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 31 05:49:23 2019, in response to "This Is MAGA Country", posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 29 16:37:18 2019. linkPotential persons of interest. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 10:38:59 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 30 21:22:23 2019. Do you, (or anyone else) think that the perpetrators might be black? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 10:43:55 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 10:38:59 2019. No. A woman who lives at Jussie's apartment building reported two suspicious white men loitering in front of the entrance not long before the attack. She told the police one of them had a blue and white rope protruding from beneath his jacket. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 10:48:11 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 10:43:55 2019. Well at first glance they appear to be black, and I don't see them wearing any baseball caps. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 11:00:40 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 10:48:11 2019. No one ever alleged that the assailants wore MAGA caps. Jussie told the police they said "this is MAGA country". |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 11:04:26 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 11:00:40 2019. OK, you are right. I never in fact heard that accusation either. But at first glance they do appear to be black. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 11:11:24 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 11:04:26 2019. How did you deduce their race "at first glance"? |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 11:13:48 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 10:48:11 2019. I can’t see what race they are. Besides they may not even be the guys. But they were around. According to the police the attack took place right after he passed those guys. He was on the other side of the street though so maybe they saw something. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 11:15:10 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 11:11:24 2019. Well I admit, maybe it's my own personal perception. I'll ask you the same question. How did You deduce their race "at first glance"? |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 11:19:45 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 11:15:10 2019. He didn’t claim to.You have biases that allow you to see things that aren’t there. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 11:20:20 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 11:19:45 2019. I just admitted it. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 11:28:04 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 11:20:20 2019. We all have our biases. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 31 11:35:28 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 11:28:04 2019. Yes we do. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 12:48:36 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 11:28:04 2019. Not me! 😎 |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 13:42:25 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 12:48:36 2019. Do you find all women equally attractive? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 14:06:04 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 13:42:25 2019. No, there are pretty ones, and there are ugly ones. And that goes across all the races. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 14:44:35 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 14:06:04 2019. The fact that you see some as pretty and some as ugly is an example of bias.Or were you saying only that you don’t have any racial biases? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 15:22:15 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 14:44:35 2019. Discrimination is not bad. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 15:42:48 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 15:22:15 2019. It certainly can be.My point is that we all have bias and that being aware of that helps us inform us to make rational decisions. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 31 16:42:02 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 15:42:48 2019. Thta's a concept a good number here are missing WRT certain issues.What is legal may or may not apply to one's personal decisions. That being said, these MUST remIn personal decisions. Lives of others depend for n it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 16:58:41 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 15:42:48 2019. Rational Thinking, Reasonable Future |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 31 17:18:22 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 11:00:40 2019. The original media reports said MAGA hats. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 31 17:33:16 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 11:00:40 2019. https://www.hiphopoverload.com/jussie-smollett-was-attacked-by-homophobic-president-trump-supporters-wearing-maga-hats/Yes, originally the Huffpo and Buzzfeed went with the MAGA hats story until it morphed in to this. That's what was first reported. This story does not have to be true to be true. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 17:43:13 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 31 17:18:22 2019. No, it didn't. The first story on this is as posted by TMZ, which made no mention of "MAGA hats". They only published the "MAGA country" quote. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 31 17:48:45 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 17:43:13 2019. Huffington Post took down the original headline which included "red MAGA hats".You are emotionally invested in this hate crime. If it's proven a hoax it still won't matter to you. THIW |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 18:07:20 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 14:44:35 2019. No racial bias whatsoever. Pretty is pretty no matter what race/ethnicity you are. Same with ugly |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 18:11:06 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 31 17:43:13 2019. Actually, to play Devil's Advocate, the very first time I heard the story, they mentioned the red MAGA hats. And like I said, I immediately thought of thought "it's Giuliani time" that was later proven to be false. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 19:59:00 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 18:07:20 2019. Bias isn’t just race and racial bias isn’t about who is pretty. If you think that some girls are pretty and others are not then you have a bias towards a certain look. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 31 20:49:34 2019, in response to Re: ''This Is MAGA Country'', posted by Easy on Thu Jan 31 19:59:00 2019. I know that. But you asked me about racial bias so I answered you.I prefer thin and petite women. |
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Posted by DanD124 on Fri Feb 1 10:07:16 2019, in response to "This Is MAGA Country", posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 29 16:37:18 2019. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-police-say-empire-actor-jussie-smollett-refuses-hand-over-n965371 |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 1 10:23:23 2019, in response to Chicago police say 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett refuses to hand over cellphone to them, posted by DanD124 on Fri Feb 1 10:07:16 2019. I wouldn't just hand my phone over either. At least not until I cleared it 😂 |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 1 10:25:55 2019, in response to Chicago police say 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett refuses to hand over cellphone to them, posted by DanD124 on Fri Feb 1 10:07:16 2019. Smollett has said he will make the call records available to the police. I wouldn't want the cops rifling through my phone if I were a big celebrity--and a gay one at that--either. The police don't need his phone to get a call history. They can go to his provider, ping the tower, etc. Plus, it can take weeks to get your stuff back from the cops. Plenty of time for an unscrupulous cop looking to make a quick buck to leak sensitive or proprietary info from the phone to the media. A forensic search of Smollett's phone is not necessary to establish that a call was made at a given time.I honestly don't get why some people are so desperate to make this incident a hoax. Everything Smollett has told the police so far, has been borne out. There is footage of him taking the route he said he did, footage of him at Subway, a minute or so where he is outside of surveillance video coverage, then video of him returning with road salt all over him and a rope around his neck. A woman in his building reported two shifty white guys loitering near the entrance before the attack, one of whom had a rope dangling from his pocket. It strains credulity to the point of absurdity, to think Smollett knew the one Gap in video coverage over the entirety of the city of Chicago, where he could presumably roll around in the dirt, crack his own rib, mess up his face (which, incidentally, is his paycheck) and hang a noose around his neck. Again, if it were to come out that this is all a lie, Smollett's career is dead, burned, and buried, plus he risks jail for falsely reporting an incident. Some people want this to be Tawana Brawley part 2 so badly, it is sickening. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Feb 1 11:17:11 2019, in response to Re: Chicago police say 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett refuses to hand over cellphone to them, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 1 10:25:55 2019. My professional opinion about this is yes he did get into a dispute and he got assaulted, but not for the reasons he saying. He is holding something back in regards to the circumstances around the assault. Maybe he was tooling for anus, maybe he knew those guys who assaulted him, will never know until he starts talkin. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Feb 1 11:18:25 2019, in response to Re: Chicago police say 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett refuses to hand over cellphone to them, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 1 10:23:23 2019. Yes, when normal people I'll ask by the police to do it, they make sure that all that stuff is locked up and they clear it. It seems that he doth protest too much |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 1 11:22:06 2019, in response to Re: Chicago police say 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett refuses to hand over cellphone to them, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Feb 1 11:18:25 2019. Doesn't matter, as it appears they've backed off from needing his phone. Somebody probably told them they could just go to the phone company to obtain call records 😂 |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 1 11:29:49 2019, in response to Re: Chicago police say 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett refuses to hand over cellphone to them, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Feb 1 11:17:11 2019. Big-name celebrities, gay or straight, don't need to be creeping around in the streets to get sex. It comes to them like room service, from countless numbers of the willing. You wouldn't find Jussie on Grindr for the simple reason that he doesn't need an app to find a sex partner if he wants one.Moreover, he has, by the cops' own admission, been "fully cooperative" with their investigation. If there were something Jussie was trying to "hide", the CPD would have likely discovered that by now. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Feb 1 11:35:17 2019, in response to Re: Chicago police say 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett refuses to hand over cellphone to them, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 1 11:29:49 2019. Yes, what you said is true, however they still creep around the streets, George Michael in park bathrooms, Eddie Murphy picking up the trannys, Mr. Cee as well. I don't know if they've stopped doing it by now, but Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt used to go to this one gay bar on Hudson Street right by the Holland Tunnel looking for loving but this was in the early 90s. |
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