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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 19 22:12:17 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 19 22:08:41 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Exactly. Most of Bushwick is residential, with the typical commercial strips. Comparatively little is industrial.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Wed Oct 19 22:13:12 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 19 20:59:20 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d That'stheost ridiculous of all. Non elected in for life. RRidiculous.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Wed Oct 19 22:13:31 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 19 20:59:20 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d That's the most ridiculous of all. Non elected in for life. RRidiculous.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Wed Oct 19 22:13:59 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 19 21:48:58 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d There are many.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 19 22:14:35 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 19 22:10:27 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yes. They have lobbyists. And of course, lobbyists are the true beneficiaries of term limits.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 19 22:15:23 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 19 22:13:31 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d IDWTP
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by LuchAAA* on Wed Oct 19 22:15:29 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 18:05:38 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I don't think its about being nicer. Bushwick is trendy and hipsters have moved the borders. Jefferson on the L and Morgan Ave too, are centers of activity. Not Knickbocker or Dekalb.
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Posted by TerrApin Station* on Wed Oct 19 22:17:11 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 19 15:41:31 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Wrong. Read the article.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by TerrApin Station* on Wed Oct 19 22:18:04 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 21:56:08 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Owned.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Wed Oct 19 22:19:36 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 19 20:59:20 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d 20 years.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 19 22:21:32 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 19 22:19:36 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d A better number would be 18 years.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 19 22:31:55 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 22:21:32 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d It would be a tremendous number.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 19 22:32:41 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 19 17:33:13 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Sounds like a bad hombre.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by ftgreeneg* on Wed Oct 19 22:46:10 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 22:12:17 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d The red area of the neighborhood map certainly is industrial According to Wiki East Williamsburg Industrial Park[edit] The eastern half of East Williamsburg, roughly bounded by the Newtown Creek on the east and by I-278 and Flushing Avenue on the north and south, respectively, is mostly zoned for industry with some residential housing mixed among the warehouses and factories. The section is currently referred to by the city as the East Williamsburg Industrial Park (EWIP), or formally the East Williamsburg In-Place Industrial Park (EWIPIP).[8] The western boundary runs approximately along Kinsgland Ave, then Morgan Avenue and then just East of Bushwick Avenue. Historically, this neighborhood was not part of the Village of Williamsburgh. In the late 19th century the region east of the present-day Humboldt Street, west of the Newtown Creek, south of Meeker Avenue, and north of Metropolitan Avenue was the 18th ward of the City of Brooklyn.[10] The north part of the EWIP is served by the Greenpoint Post Office and is considered by some to be part of Greenpoint. The portion of the EWIP to the South of Metropolitan Avenue was historically part of Bushwick and is still referred by many as being in Bushwick.
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Posted by ftgreeneg* on Wed Oct 19 22:48:10 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 18:05:38 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d ok I guess i'm making things up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Williamsburg,_Brooklyn#Boundaries East Williamsburg is a name for the area in the northwestern portion of the borough of Brooklyn in New York City, United States, which lies between Williamsburg, Greenpoint, and Bushwick. Much of this area is still referred to as either Bushwick, Williamsburg, or Greenpoint with the term East Williamsburg falling out of use since the 1990s.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by alm* on Wed Oct 19 22:49:41 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 21:56:08 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Not to mention the "Killary" people. :)
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 19 22:53:55 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by alm on Wed Oct 19 22:49:41 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Killary is not as sexist. It makes a tremendous difference.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by ftgreeneg* on Wed Oct 19 22:54:14 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 22:00:47 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Can't believe he actually said that... then again I can (the man is severely tone deaf)
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 19 22:55:24 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 22:54:14 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d WRONG!
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by ftgreeneg* on Wed Oct 19 22:59:52 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 22:55:24 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d lol ok...
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Oct 19 23:10:57 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 19 18:16:32 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d It's a shame that he doesn't revert the name back to it's original strong German name. Grosspoppa changed it because of anti-German sentiment during the WW1 era.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by ftgreeneg* on Thu Oct 20 00:15:06 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 19 22:15:29 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d true depends on the demographic for the hipsters the center is Jefferson and Morgan on the L. For the latino's it's Knickerbocker between approx. Myrtle and Dekalb.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by alm* on Thu Oct 20 06:03:01 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 16:02:57 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d There is the whole "agency" issue. How do you hire people to manage your business when you pay them a tiny fraction of the money at stake. However, term limits aren't the answer. No one suggests term limits or limiting experience for property managers or corporate managers.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by RockParkMan* on Thu Oct 20 09:03:03 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 19 20:34:33 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I like that. Suck that turtle, baby.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by RockParkMan* on Thu Oct 20 09:04:21 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 19 15:08:27 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Trump wrote "The Art of the Deal"
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by RockParkMan* on Thu Oct 20 09:07:34 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 10:34:16 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d IAWTP.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 20 09:08:47 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Oct 20 09:04:21 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d He wrote nothing.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Dutchrailnut* on Thu Oct 20 09:12:11 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Oct 20 09:04:21 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d actually it was written by ghost writer Tony Schwartz.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Oct 20 09:42:38 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 19 22:13:31 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Thomas Jefferson agreed back in 1819. The nation declared its will by dismissing functionaries of one principle, and electing those of another, in the two branches, executive and legislative, submitted to their election. Over the judiciary department, the constitution had deprived them of their control. That, therefore, has continued the reprobated system, and although new matter has been occasionally incorporated into the old, yet the leaven of the old mass seems to assimilate to itself the new, and after twenty years' confirmation of the federal system by the voice of the nation, declared through the medium of elections, we find the judiciary, on every occasion, still driving us into consolidation. In denying the right they usurp of exclusively explaining the constitution, I go further than you do, if I understand rightly your quotation from the Federalist, of an opinion that "the judiciary is the last resort in relation to the other departments of the government, but not in relation to the rights of the parties to the compact under which the judiciary is derived." If this opinion be sound, then indeed is our constitution a complete felo de se. For intending to establish three departments, coordinate and independent, that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this opinion, to one of them alone, the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others, and to that one too, which is unelected by, and independent of the nation. … The constitution, on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please. It should be remembered, as an axiom of eternal truth in politics, that whatever power in any government is independent is absolute also; in theory only, at first, while the spirit of the people is up, but in practice, as fast as that relaxes. Independence can be trusted nowhere but with the people in mass. They are inherently independent of all but moral law. My construction of the constitution is very different from that you quote. It is that each department is truly independent of the others, and has an equal right to decide for itself what is the meaning of the constitution in the cases submitted to its action; and especially, where it is to act ultimately and without appeal. … Ever heard the oft-quoted phrase "the constitution is not a suicide pact"? The term "felo de se" means "suicide".
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by ChicagoMotorman* on Thu Oct 20 09:54:54 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 20 09:08:47 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d So who wrote these books?
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 20 09:56:50 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 20 09:54:54 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Ghostwriters.
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman* on Thu Oct 20 09:58:00 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 20 09:56:50 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d And you know this for a fact?
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by ChicagoMotorman* on Thu Oct 20 10:01:12 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 22:21:32 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I thought you said you were against term limits?
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 20 10:08:41 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 20 09:58:00 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yes, I know it for a fact.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 20 10:10:05 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 20 10:01:12 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d So?
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Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Thu Oct 20 11:58:07 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 20 10:10:05 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Selective term limits?
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 20 12:43:02 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 20 11:58:07 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Huh?
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by terRAPIN station* on Thu Oct 20 12:44:21 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 20 12:43:02 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d iawtp
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 20 14:54:11 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 20 09:58:00 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Do you sincerely believe that Donald Trump personally wrote any one of those books?
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by orange blossom special* on Thu Oct 20 17:03:13 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 19 19:21:40 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Term limits won't really matter much for urban districts. It may even be a motivator to be even more crooked even quicker.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Fri Oct 21 01:43:01 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 16:10:45 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Because it keeps an influx of fresh ideas. And to your point that lobbyists would benefit, I disagree. Now they have to bribe a new set of guys every term to keep their protectionist laws on the books. Automatic disqualification from reelection is for a ignorant and indifferent electorate. Because so many vote party lines like lemmings the only way to get a change is to force a new face in. The party always runs the incumbent because the incumbent usually wins. Heaven forbid people actually have to think every few years!
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Fri Oct 21 07:04:22 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 19 19:21:40 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Term limits for all offices. I'll go you one better. They like to vote themselves pay raises. I say it should be on the ballot and left up to the voters that WE should decide whether or not a pay raise is warranted due to their merits as public officials. Ain't gonna happen. :-( Bill Newkirk
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri Oct 21 08:07:31 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Oct 21 01:43:01 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d The evidence shows otherwise.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri Oct 21 08:10:57 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Oct 21 07:04:22 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d That is stupid.
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Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate
Posted by Terrapin station* on Fri Oct 21 08:17:01 2016, in response to Re: Trump proposes term limits for House and Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 21 08:07:31 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d IAWTP
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