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Re: Unarmed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 05:41:07 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 4 05:33:15 2014.

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I can see that.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 4 05:47:42 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 05:41:07 2014.

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I'll save you the reading then ... "Pwned" ... now get in the car, Johnny. ;)

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 07:02:18 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 05:26:35 2014.

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No, even non-attorneys are pwning you here.

Of course, you're a total hypocrite given that you're trying to get people to believe what you say through an appeal to authority without even citing that authority, and then you are rejecting that very same authority when it comes to others.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 07:16:54 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 07:02:18 2014.

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I'm not. Here's a homework assignment for you.. Go back and re-read my posts.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 07:59:26 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 05:26:35 2014.

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No, it doesn't. There are dumb attorneys. But the two or three attorneys here that are pwning you are intelligent. Based on what they are saying, as well as what other intelligent people here are saying, you seem to be wrong. You may be new here so you may not know this, but the people who are pwning you are rarely if ever wrong on such matters.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:31:25 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 07:16:54 2014.

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If I wanted to read bullshit I'd visit a farm.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:42:28 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 07:59:26 2014.

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I've been here for years, BUT I don't post freequently as I'm too busy with my career/social life. Do you even KNOW what I'm debating about with Spider pig and now AIM?

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:48:39 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:31:25 2014.

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Typical nebbish internet toughguy... See ya at the next event!

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:57:36 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:48:39 2014.

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Typical internet ignoramus who knows nothing but likes to pretend otherwise.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 09:05:19 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:57:36 2014.

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I bet you that I'm more intelligent than you. Test scores, IQ, career. You name it. It is quite ignorant of someone to post such things without knowing the person who you are casting such accusations of.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 09:16:16 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 09:05:19 2014.

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Given that you do not know how to spell "succumb," know that you don't know how to spell it and are nevertheless incapable of avoiding it in favor of words you do know, I tend to doubt that.

You seem to like to brag about things without actually citing what it is you're bragging about, so I'm going to assume that you're full of shit and there's a high likelihood I'm right.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 4 09:24:56 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 09:16:16 2014.

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Yeah.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 09:33:01 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:42:28 2014.

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Yes. I can and have been following the discussion.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 4 14:21:16 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 2 22:09:55 2014.

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Yes, you are an idiot.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 4 14:22:58 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 2 22:20:02 2014.

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Yes Breitbart. The same man that was tragically murdered at the young age of 43.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 4 14:36:22 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 4 14:22:58 2014.

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He wasn't murdered. He died of a heart attack brought on my a chronic condition that he could control had he seen a doctor for a new prescription. However, being without healthcare insurance (pre-existing condition) he did not.

If anyone murdered him, it would be the RWers. His own.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 4 14:39:08 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 4 14:36:22 2014.

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If I wanted a rerun, I would watch METV.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 4 14:53:26 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 4 14:39:08 2014.

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So why the unfounded accusation? You know how he died. You know what he died of. You know he could have prevented it.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:03:38 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 09:16:16 2014.

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Yeah, that's it!!!! When I went to school ALL of the finals and other tests consisted of 100-500 questions of how to spell succumb!!!! No wonder I failed!! I was in a hurry (at work, if you know what that is) and was typing fast at the moment. BUT, if THAT'S what you want to hang your hat on, by all means, go for it!

Like I tell Bingbong, this is a computer forum, NOT a Master's Thesis. If you want to find out the sources for the things I say, look it up!

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 17:44:03 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 3 07:31:54 2014.

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Oh, I must have missed that.

Looks like the every three months figure is right after all. It still pales in comparison to the daily shootings of black people by cops, though— especially when you consider that cops, by definition, put themselves in close contact with criminals on a regular basis while the average black man does not.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 4 21:42:13 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 17:44:03 2014.

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Oh, I must have missed that.

Looks like the every three months figure is right after all.
HOLY SHIT!!!

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Sep 4 23:12:50 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 17:44:03 2014.

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It still pales in comparison to the daily shootings of black people by cops,

I don't doubt the assertion.

Can you provide a reliable basis for it?

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Sep 4 23:28:12 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 17:44:03 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 23:38:19 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Sep 4 23:12:50 2014.

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Here's a report. It's almost midnight so I don't have time to dig through the sources it cites right now.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 23:38:45 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 4 21:42:13 2014.

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Are you confused by something?

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 00:01:21 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 23:38:19 2014.

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I await a more definitive answer.

You will note the following on page 17 of your linked article:

How do these numbers compare with the killing of white people?
 Sample data: Since there is no national database that keeps track of state sanctioned these killings let alone one that analyzes the data by race, it is impossible to give a comprehensive answer.


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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:09:55 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 00:01:21 2014.

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I await a more definitive answer.

You're not going to get one at midnight. I have to go to bed soon.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:20:33 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:09:55 2014.

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I have to go to bed soon.
Shens.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:23:36 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:20:33 2014.

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O'Hara.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:25:06 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 23:38:45 2014.

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Not at all!

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 00:26:37 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:09:55 2014.

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I did not mean to imply that I expected an immediate answer.

There was a NY Times Op Ed that stated there were no reliable statistics regarding this question. I found it hard to believe. A simple Google search turned up nothing. I thought I'd give you a shot because you seem to have a stronger interest in the subject.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:27:16 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:25:06 2014.

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Then would you explain your surprise at my post?

Or were you merely claiming that it, in some way, concerned the topic of divinely blessed fecal matter?

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:29:05 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:23:36 2014.

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Life on mars

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:29:50 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:29:05 2014.

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zzzzzzzz

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 5 00:30:48 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 3 08:49:24 2014.

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Bump.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Sep 5 01:24:38 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:29:05 2014.

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zzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 06:01:09 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 2 22:42:56 2014.

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"Shoot the messenger" when they don't like the message. The universal trait of those who insist on disengaging from reality.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 5 07:04:32 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 00:26:37 2014.

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Don't hold your breath.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 5 08:40:37 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:27:16 2014.

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I was surprised that you actually believed someone who was telling you that you were mistaken.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:32:46 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 5 08:40:37 2014.

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See that's what you and your fellow nutters will never understand.

Unlike you, I'm actually rational. I form my beliefs based on evidence. Stephen Bauman didn't just say I was mistaken, he proved it by providing the evidence to back it up.

Irrational people like GP Chris and Gamera (and you) often form the impression that I never admit to being wrong because none of them ever take the effort to prove me wrong— they just declare I'm mistaken and expect me to take their word no matter how ridiculous it may be. And, ironically, when I refuse to believe their unsubstantiated assertion over my own lived experience and direct observation, they declare that I'm irrational.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:10 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 00:01:21 2014.

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You will also note the table that appears underneath that quote, providing data on five cities where information is available. Even if the nationwide totals have to be estimated, it's nonetheless obvious that black people are killed by the police at extremely disproportionate rates.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 20:28:33 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:10 2014.

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As I noted initially, I don't doubt the assertion. I'm looking for a definitive source to quantify it.

I'm not knocking the research in the link you provided. There are inherent problems with surveys. Was it a random sample? Was it a stratified sample? What efforts made to compensate for sampling bias? These are technical questions any survey reader should ask.

The projections based on such surveys have differed widely. I've seen articles that estimated the yearly number of police killings from 400 to 1100. These articles were written within the last few weeks.

I was hoping you would be able to find a reliable data because the subject appears to be a more immediate concern to you.



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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 20:41:10 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 20:28:33 2014.

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I'm afraid that, being white, it can't ever be an "immediate" concern for me.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 6 10:46:46 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 4 14:21:16 2014.

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No, YOU are!!!!

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 6 10:49:06 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:29:05 2014.

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NOTHING THERE!!!

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:12:59 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 6 10:46:46 2014.

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 6 13:52:53 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:12:59 2014.

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More crap from Train Dude!!!!!

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 6 13:54:11 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 6 13:52:53 2014.

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IAWTP
lol

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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:58:57 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 6 13:52:53 2014.

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לך תזדיין עם עצמך


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Re: Unarmed

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 6 14:10:11 2014, in response to Re: Unarmed, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:58:57 2014.

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Another stupid post from Train Dude!!! Enjoy Hell when you get there!!!

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