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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 19 18:23:05 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 09:52:33 2012. Don't bother responding to that idiot. He was the suckhole of the bus barn and doesn't realize the GOP wants to double his taxes to give the useless eaters another tax cut. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 19 18:25:55 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 19 12:11:24 2012. I heard it was a Silver Dollar but actually, if he did toss a large silver coin over the Potomac, it was probably a Spanish 8 Reales coin. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 20:32:32 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 19 12:14:43 2012. LOL, Italian Reggae Veteran!Hell I'm goin! your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 23:07:45 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 18:21:07 2012. Like algebra? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 23:10:49 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 19 18:19:31 2012. I'm a democrat. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 23:46:07 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 19 01:19:43 2012. LOL, the other jacket came later :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 20 00:07:43 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 23:46:07 2012. Yeah, the old one was too colorful. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 03:22:01 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 18 23:42:06 2012. How is "OK" a sign of disagreement?Although I don't support "marijuana dispensaries." Marijuana should be sold in like manner to tobacco (or alcohol in Nevada). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 03:24:17 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Aug 18 21:36:21 2012. Nor do Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.Actually, firearms have benefits. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 03:51:12 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 19 12:11:24 2012. When I was in school I learned that God created the world in 6 days, that man comes from clay, and that the Earth predates the sun and the other stars. Also that there was once a worldwide flood and some dude built a ship with at least 2 of every animal. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 20 05:16:15 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 20:32:32 2012. LOL, Italian Reggae Veteran!Hell I'm goin! Just Say No! that guy + Birra Raffo is the reason for every drug addict in Taranto Province. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 09:05:37 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 03:22:01 2012. I think it should be sold in wine and liquor shops. IMO, that would be best way to control who can access it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 11:51:22 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 09:05:37 2012. I am opposed to "wine and liquor shops." Thus the reference to Nevada. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 12:01:02 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 11:51:22 2012. Why? In populated areas, they have better security than most, and in less populated areas the owner pretty much knows the clientele, as well as who the kids are and will keep them away. The staff is also trained to request proof of age, especially unknown people."Dispensaries" may fit better into the medical meme. I thought we were discussing clear legalization along the lines of existing alcohol regulation. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 12:03:41 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 12:01:02 2012. If security were necessary for the business, then the owner would provide for it. ABC is a form of soft prohibition. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 12:49:29 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 12:03:41 2012. It is an established bureaucracy that could easily expand to accommodate regulation needs for a new product. Its people are experienced (so as to train new personnel cost effectively) in handling same, and would be the least disruptive and probably fiscally reasonable means to handle legal pot distribution. Establishing new bureaucracy is expensive and time consuming (plus with the bunch we have in DC who knows what morass they'd come up with....ACA could have been done for much less by just opening Medicare to paying subscribers as an option and leaving the rest of the system alone, while using Medicaid money to subsidize those too poor to afford a Medicare subscription. It could have been phased in as well). |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:25:22 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 12:49:29 2012. Just leave Social Security and Medicare for people who pay into the system- no one else. put the rest into another program! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 14:30:03 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 12:49:29 2012. It is a bureaucracy that is unnecessary. All alcoholic beverages should be allowed to be sold in any store, at any time of day, in any neighborhood where grocery stores are allowed to be open. Bars should be allowed to sell alcoholic beverages for off-premises consumption as well, i.e. no distinction should be drawn between on and off premises sales.This is a separate argument though, but I still believe that current tobacco regulation is an acceptable model, except that the marijuana age should match the drinking age (which should ALSO be 18, but that's another argument). |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 14:30:05 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:25:22 2012. Wrong. The traditional retirement pension benefits, as supported by a lifetime of taxes paid must remain. After all, there's obligations in exchange or tax paid.Expanding the system is what I'm talking about. With its significantly lower overhead it would be the ideal alternative to private, often for profit (which tax money should not be providing) insurance. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:33:15 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 14:30:05 2012. A lot of people on Social Security never paid taxes into the system. I say go back to its original function- retirement for those who pay into it. And get the foreign swine off our dole! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 14:34:40 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:25:22 2012. Having two separate programs only increases administration costs and thus wastes money. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 14:38:40 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 03:22:01 2012. How is "OK" a sign of disagreement?It is disagreement. This thread was ruined by bingbong who seems to be against T therapy. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:38:42 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 14:34:40 2012. Social Security doesn't waste money, as it it now? LOL!!! Another socialist giveaway to people who should be in another plan! |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 20 14:48:21 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:33:15 2012. A lot of people on Social Security never paid taxes into the system.Huh? Even for disability, you have to have earned money and paid FICA. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:50:23 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 20 14:48:21 2012. No, I am talking about people who never paid into the system. I am aware of the disability requirements! |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 20 15:14:44 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:50:23 2012. Then I repeat, huh?How can such a person exist, other than as a beneficiary of someone who paid into the system, like a surviving spouse? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 15:16:54 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 20 15:14:44 2012. Then I repeat, huh?Please stop that. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 20 15:39:42 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 15:16:54 2012. Why? It's a serious question. I don't understand how the claimed situation is possible. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 15:47:36 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 20 15:39:42 2012. He's complaining about your use of "huh." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 15:48:08 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 20 15:14:44 2012. He's probably confusing it with SSI. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 15:48:56 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:38:42 2012. No, it doesn't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 15:49:52 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 14:38:40 2012. How is it disagreement? I think I'm more qualified to decide whether I disagree with something or not. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 16:52:08 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:33:15 2012. Not so anymore. You may been able to get away with that line when benefits were first being paid.The only exception is survivors/dependents benefits for minors, in which case the parent paid. Like Paul Ryan received. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 16:53:27 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 14:34:40 2012. They would be administrated by the same agency. The only difference would be the monthly premium. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 16:54:22 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 15:48:56 2012. Absolutely not. It has very low administrative costs. Especially for a system so large. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 16:57:11 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 14:38:40 2012. How is someone who says this is a bad idea (and any doctor worth their license will say exactly the same) "ruining" the thread? You have to be ready for disparate opinions if you post on a place like this. You expected everyone to support what is ultimately a bad decision?Ask your doctor. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Aug 20 16:58:26 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 15:47:36 2012. Huh? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 18:03:49 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 16:57:11 2012. Not every doctor will have an authoritative opinion on the matter. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 18:08:00 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 14:30:03 2012. I disagree. Supermarkets would never provide the variety and guidance for the best possible purchase (in any price range) that a wine shop or liquor store can. I don't want to see them put out of business....adding pot to their offerings will help them to fight off competition (inevitably from the supermarkets) and enhance their chances of survival.Liquor stores are a much nicer place to shop, as there rarely are screaming children and harried adults inside. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 20 18:17:55 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Aug 20 14:33:15 2012. Perhaps some folks don't understand how it really works. Those paying into the system today are covering those on it today. If you decide to provide alternatives to the system, then that money won't be going into the system any longer, and those on it won't have services much longer.All of this talk about "privatizing" it is intended to shut it down for those already collecting because "whoops ... no more money coming in to the pay as you go." The existing "trust fund" is merely a buffer between input and output. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 18:47:38 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 18:03:49 2012. Most draw the line at unnecessary hormones. They can cause all sorts of metabolic problems, heart and liver damage. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 20:08:12 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 18:08:00 2012. If they provide a superior business model, then they would remain in business. There is no need for them to engage in rent-seeking behavior. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 20:11:05 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 18:47:38 2012. That's not what I meant. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 20:16:30 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 20:08:12 2012. They are becoming few and far between as it is. Especially where supermarkets have wine & liquor aisles. It's impossible to find anything unique, interesting. or any unoaked chardonnay. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 20 20:23:43 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 20:16:30 2012. Read the subject. Don't you realize that you are not equipped? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 20:25:12 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 20:11:05 2012. What did you mean? I have yet to meet a competent doctor that would advocate or recommend doing what Luch is talking about.Messing with one's natural hormonal feedback cycles is a very bad idea absent an actual issue causing imbalances. That can only be determined through blood monitoring. Aging of and by itself is NOT a legitimate cause for hormone supplementation. Despite what the TV ads say. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 20:31:31 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 16:57:11 2012. It's medicine. It improves quality of life.100 mg's a week is not bodybuilder levels. You just hate men I think. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 20:37:23 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 20:16:30 2012. Because that's the business model that can be sustained. Why should the government make it easier for you to find the liquor you like? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 20:38:46 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 20:25:12 2012. Not every person with the title "doctor" is a physician. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 20 20:48:33 2012, in response to Re: Just a thought, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 20:31:31 2012. Someone that hates men doesn't enjoy living with one for over 35 years. Nor do they spend time in places like this.Do understand that you,as an adult, can do whatever you want. If you think it'll make you look good, that's fine. I guess there are some women out there that would find that attractive. Do remember that it won't last. Do check out the relationship between hormone imbalance and congestive heart disease. |
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