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Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 20:32:18 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:09:42 2012. Not a bad idea as long as it's federal. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:32:35 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:09:42 2012. Yes. It would be similar tio how you can get your passport at the post office. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 12 20:32:54 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:31:04 2012. Some posters don't seem to think the 24th amendment applies, or they have forgotten about it. Not clear. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 20:47:41 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:14:08 2012. does this SOMEONE as you stated have a name ? name him / heryou still have refused to answer the question ... do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 12 21:01:35 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 12 20:20:17 2012. No. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 21:42:34 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:00:31 2012. Yeah, fine, but the GOP isn't saying get a free ID. They are charging and/or making it had to get IDs by issuing them only in limited offices, etc.And it's a myth that almost everybody has ID. Lots of urban folks have no drivers license. Also many students. And many states do not allow student ID to count! Further, to get a non-drivers ID you need a birth cert., which many older folks have lost and can't easily get. So it's a mess all around, with no reason for it in the first place. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 21:44:52 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 17:56:52 2012. YOU TOLD ME YOU SENT THE PERSON TO MEET ME!!YOU SAID I PROMISED THE PERSON I WOULDN'T BOTHER ME ANYMORE! YOU TELL ME WHO THIS PERSON HIS. HE TOLD ME HE SPEAKS TO YOU ON THE PHONE! |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 21:45:23 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 17:31:15 2012. A friend of yours told me so! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 12 21:56:52 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 21:42:34 2012. Again with the birth certificates. Why are Teabaggers so obsessed with them? :-) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 12 22:13:36 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 21:42:34 2012. And it's a myth that almost everybody has ID. Lots of urban folks have no drivers license.Yeah, but they usually get other forms of ID because you need ID for all sorts of stuff. Like getting a job, opening a bank account, or getting an apartment. Further, to get a non-drivers ID you need a birth cert., States accept other forms of non-official ID for just that reason. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 22:26:06 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 21:44:52 2012. does this SOMEONE as you stated have a name ? name him / heryou still have refused to answer the question ... do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 22:26:22 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 21:45:23 2012. does this SOMEONE as you stated have a name ? name him / heryou still have refused to answer the question ... do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 22:27:33 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 21:44:52 2012. i did not tell you nothing and .................................does this SOMEONE as you stated have a name ? name him / her you still have refused to answer the question ... do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 23:19:42 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 22:27:33 2012. I wont bother linking it cause you will just say I made it up, but think of this....If the person came to my office in my depot they must also work for NYC transit also, right? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 01:08:48 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:32:35 2012. Mandatory passports for everyone? More than half of Americans don't have them anyway... |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 01:10:19 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 12 20:20:17 2012. Unless this ID is specifically being made so people can vote, then who is to say there won't be charges or fees associated with getting it? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 01:21:39 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:09:42 2012. It's a big deal because they're NOT FREE. They should have mandated free ID but they didn't.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 13 01:34:28 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 12 20:19:17 2012. It's the only option. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 13 01:35:10 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 12 20:20:17 2012. I agree. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 01:37:04 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 01:21:39 2012. Wait, they have to be free; Constitution says so.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 13 02:45:55 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 13 01:34:28 2012. According to wikipedia courts have ruled otherwise. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 13 02:57:39 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 23:19:42 2012. does this SOMEONE as you stated have a name ? name him / heryou still have refused to answer the question ... do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 03:28:05 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 13 02:45:55 2012. Republican activist judges ... you were expecting JUSTICE? Or respect for the Constitution? Republicans don't do that. They only claim to believe in it when they get caught trampling on it. :) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 13 06:06:19 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 01:08:48 2012. Huh???? Mandatory passports???? Who tge heck suggested thatt??? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 13 06:07:25 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 01:37:04 2012. Right. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:14:46 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 13 06:06:19 2012. If you are going to require everyone have ID to vote and go to the post office to get it, why not make everyone get a passport too (which would work for voting ID purposes)? At what point does it end?Requiring ID to vote is still not justified IMO, the risks of disenfranchisement outweigh the potential for fraud. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 06:17:33 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:14:46 2012. But disenfranchisement is the only hope they have to win. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:41:10 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 06:17:33 2012. Why don't you sit out until you have something constructive to add to the conversation? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 13 06:45:34 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:14:46 2012. No one even hinted at "making everyone get a passport"....so please dont come up with that and then pass it off like that is what was suggested. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 13 06:46:07 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 06:17:33 2012. Get a life....really. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 13 06:46:40 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:41:10 2012. He can check onlt post partisan bs it seems. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:50:56 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 13 06:45:34 2012. I'm not saying you suggested it per se. I'm asking at what point do the requirements to have certain types of ID end? Most countries don't require ID to vote, those that do make getting an ID far less cumbersome process than it is in the US. More here |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 13 08:02:09 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 01:10:19 2012. If the only way you can vote is to get an ID that is not free, that would strike me as a violation of the 24th amendment, even if the non-free ID gives you additional privileges. Do you disagree? |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 13 08:24:39 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:41:10 2012. Excellent question. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:30:27 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 06:41:10 2012. Why? That wasn't an unconstructive comment.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 13 08:31:40 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 13 02:45:55 2012. I think you missed the statement in the article that said:Because Indiana’s cards are free ... |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 13 08:35:15 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 21:42:34 2012. Further, to get a non-drivers ID you need a birth cert., which many older folks have lost and can't easily get.If a non-driver's ID has more stringent identification requirements than a driver's license, that sounds like a violation of the 24th amendment to me. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 08:45:51 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 13 08:02:09 2012. I don't disagree, but I still maintain requiring national ID cards or IDs to vote is a solution looking for a problem and not needed. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 08:47:20 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:30:27 2012. It wasn't constructive either. Instead of insisting that the Republicans can't win by any other means, there are other arguments that can be made against requiring ID to vote. I enjoy having civil debate with Chris (and others here), Selkirk rarely if ever facilitates those discussions. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:52:59 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 08:47:20 2012. I don't like censorship.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 08:56:58 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:52:59 2012. I like being able to agree to disagree (and without starting a flamewar). We might have to do that in this case. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:59:49 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 08:56:58 2012. Ok, but remember, you get as much respect as you give out. I can agree to disagree with you.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 13 09:02:44 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 08:45:51 2012. Agreed. But if a state decides to put something into place, it better be free or else it ought to very quickly be declared illegal. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 09:02:47 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:59:49 2012. Point taken, thanks. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 13 09:18:31 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:30:27 2012. Good Point Fred. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 13 09:27:25 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:59:49 2012. Spot on again Fred! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 13 09:40:02 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 13 08:02:09 2012. That is correct, that's why there should be some free national ID people can get, if they don't have any other ID such as a drivers license, non-drivers license or so forth. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 13 09:48:33 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 13 08:45:51 2012. An national ID card would not be a "requirement", it would be an option for the rare few people that don't have any other form of ID. Most people HAVE ID, you need it for just about everything nowadays. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 13 10:03:55 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:52:59 2012. Who's censoring anything? I agree with Oren....the partisan crap is ridiculous here. I much prefer having a civil rational debate with someone like him, who at least respects opposing opinions, even if he doesn't happen to agree. With some people here, disagreement has become a pissing contest based on partisan position. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 13 10:07:17 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 13 08:59:49 2012. The only people I am "disrespectful" to are those who have shown me the same disrespect simply for disagreeing with them. I never cast the first stone. While I would say 90% of the time you are also respectful, there are a few times you have also called me a "dick" or the like for disagreeing with you. I would hope it's done jokingly, as that's how I usually have taken it. Even RockParkMan's posts I know he is half assedly joking when he says some stuff here. But there are some here that are generally malicious when people disagree. |
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