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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 17:22:56 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:21:10 2012.

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I don't get that. If he's in DC he should not be paying local taxes. It does not make sense. He's legitimately in DC.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 17:23:47 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:22:10 2012.

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I like JayZeeBMT but sometimes he reacts too quickly and emotionally.

Which is what most journalists do these days.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:25:34 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 17:22:56 2012.

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Yes, but he maintains his home in Illinois. President is a "temporary" position.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:26:11 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 17:23:47 2012.

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Yeah, to think that Obama's only income was that of being president is absurd.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Apr 13 17:26:39 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 17:21:50 2012.

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Obama did the right thing this time.

Obama does the right thing all of the time.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 17:27:05 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:25:34 2012.

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It's not a temporary position. It's not seasonal work. It's Obama's full-time job.

Obama should qualify as a non-resident or part-time resident of Illinois.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 13 17:30:15 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by SMAZ on Fri Apr 13 17:26:39 2012.

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Please Travis, you were doing so well for quite a while and now this?

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Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Apr 13 17:34:35 2012, in response to Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 12:55:56 2012.

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You NAZIS are the class warriors. WE THE People are JUST STARTING to defend ourselves.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:37:00 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 17:27:05 2012.

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Presidents maintain their homes because it is a temporary position. It's only either 4 or 8 years, not longer.

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Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 13 17:38:40 2012, in response to Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Apr 13 17:34:35 2012.

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With grunts like selkook and ring-ding, it's all over already, Mike. Them two is booking it to Canada as we speak.

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Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Apr 13 17:41:41 2012, in response to Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 13 17:38:40 2012.

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Believe it or not, we're ALL a bunch of good folks. SubChat >>>IS<<< a GAME.

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Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:43:44 2012, in response to Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Apr 13 17:41:41 2012.

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Yeah. Most of the people I have the biggest disagreements with here are probably also some of my favorite people here.


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Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 13 17:46:21 2012, in response to Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:43:44 2012.

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I can say that about all but two.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Charles G on Fri Apr 13 17:47:03 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 17:22:56 2012.

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I don't know for certain, but there are must be specific tax rules for the President.

If a typical citizen were provided housing by his or her employer, the fair market rental cost of that housing (plus the associated staff costs) would be considered taxable income. This is not the case for the President.

State income is typically payable where you work, not where you live. So, an Illinois resident who does most of their work in DC would owe tax first to DC, and they would then get a credit for the tax paid to DC when they filed in Illinois. That is also not the case for the President.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 13 18:02:17 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:21:10 2012.

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All we heard from the left during Bush's presidency was "go back to Crawford TX".

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Apr 13 18:04:07 2012, in response to Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 12:55:56 2012.

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Least he's finally paying them! It's a nice change of pace.

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Re: 3 GP38s may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Apr 13 18:04:10 2012, in response to Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:43:44 2012.

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Nothing better than the sweet sound of a Roots Blower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A4V2hqcBJw&feature=related


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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 13 18:36:51 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Charles G on Fri Apr 13 17:47:03 2012.

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If a typical citizen were provided housing by his or her employer, the fair market rental cost of that housing (plus the associated staff costs) would be considered taxable income.

Not if the employer insists on your living there as a condition of the job. Universities often do that with their presidents.




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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 13 18:37:51 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:37:00 2012.

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And Ed Koch kept his rent stabilized apartment for 12 temporary years in Gracie Mansion.



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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 13 18:56:55 2012, in response to Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 12:55:56 2012.

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Well gee whiz ... maybe there is something to that Buffett thing after all?

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 13 19:04:49 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 13 13:32:35 2012.

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Who would want to? You only post hate, you have nothing to say.



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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 13 19:12:53 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 13 17:10:29 2012.

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...and he proves it!

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 13 20:26:33 2012, in response to Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 12:55:56 2012.

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Cool, who's his accountant? I wanna hire that guy to do my taxes.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by JohnL on Fri Apr 13 22:01:50 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 16:02:13 2012.

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In this case, Obama is making real donations to charity. He takes the income from his books and gives it away, so he doesn’t have that income to use. And, it appears, he doesn’t get anything back.

Compare and contrast, the socialites who give lots of money to the Opera Houses and Theaters in the big cities. They get board seats, invitations to special galas, etc, etc. Is that really charity?

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 13 22:10:19 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by JohnL on Fri Apr 13 22:01:50 2012.

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Not unless your name is on the building. :)

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by JohnL on Fri Apr 13 22:36:56 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 13 22:10:19 2012.

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From Britain:



with the late, lamented Paul Eddington and Nigel Hawthorne. I’m sure you can see the parallels.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 13 23:17:53 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by JohnL on Fri Apr 13 22:36:56 2012.

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Ah yes ... "noblesse oblige" ... :)

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Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Apr 14 15:05:13 2012, in response to Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:43:44 2012.

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You have arguments here?

I've yet to ever see anyone explain themselves on here or have given me anything factual about anything. Some of it is just plan ignored, like itallionstallions claims the deficit was fixed from obamacare, but we get weekly reports that it's ruining the deficit. That's just a general example.



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Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Apr 14 15:07:50 2012, in response to Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Apr 13 17:41:41 2012.

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Theorizing and blovating around a table is a game.

You choose to support *actively* policies that cause pain starvation and the other thing, you become as good as, the only expression that Americans know for this term, good little germans.
Or as Liberal Professor and mainstream dem Ward C. says, "little eichmanns".
active being the key word.

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Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Apr 14 16:06:18 2012, in response to Re: NAZIS may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Apr 14 15:07:50 2012.

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Admit it, you were a LIBERAL until the Dems ran BO.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Apr 14 16:20:50 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by JohnL on Fri Apr 13 22:01:50 2012.

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"He takes the income from his books and gives it away,"

He never gave to charity before becoming president. He's doing it so he doesn't get impeached and locked in prison. Don't make forced donations like taxes into some hero worshipping.
Source? Look at subchat 3 years ago.

Secondly, who would've known kickbacks and cronyism gets taxes less than 'work'.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 14 17:43:58 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 13 17:22:10 2012.

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Obama has more income than just what he's paid as President.


and he gives all that extra income away instead of stashing in the Cayman Islands.

God Bless Barack Obama.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 16 09:24:40 2012, in response to Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 12:55:56 2012.

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According to Wikipedia, Johnson is 31 years old and now attends Harvard Law School. I don’t know about her personal life or what her deductions would be, so I can’t assume any children or extra deductions.

On a $90,000 salary, she would pay $16,578 in federal taxes, $3,780 to Social Security, and $1,305 in Medicare taxes.


Note to Mr. Koffler: there's a big difference between "would pay" and "did pay," especially when you know she's in school and would have some related deductions and credits.

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Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 16 09:26:52 2012, in response to Re: Obama may have paid less in taxes than his own secretary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 13:40:44 2012.

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That only defers the payment of tax until he cashes it out.

That's not true of all investments.

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