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Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by Rockparkman on Thu Apr 12 17:26:43 2012


Sorry, asshole. After the Florida trial, he'll face Federal civil rights charges and that HOA that hired Zimmerman is going to get sued off the planet. Oh, Goody Goody!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/12/sean-hannity-george-zimmerman-overcharging_n_1420157.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D151543

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Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 12 17:28:13 2012, in response to Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by Rockparkman on Thu Apr 12 17:26:43 2012.

Linked for those who wish to see it better



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Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 17:33:56 2012, in response to Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by Rockparkman on Thu Apr 12 17:26:43 2012.

When the story broke, I listened to Sharpton go on and on about Zimmerman saying "coon". That fell apart. If civil rights charges are brought, it would be for political reasons. It could also cost Obama the Hispanic vote if Zimmerman's mother starts making the rounds on Univision and Telemundo.

Did Zimmerman work for an HOA?

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Re:Irish Catholic Lefty Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 17:38:00 2012, in response to Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 12 17:28:13 2012.

A lot of people think the evidence in this case does not warrant the charges, and it's political.

Whites who see blacks as perpetrators of most violent crime in America will sympathize with Zimmerman.

Blacks who see America as racist will see Zimmerman as a racist who hunted Trayvon down and killed him.

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Re:Irish Catholic Lefty Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 17:57:08 2012, in response to Re:Irish Catholic Lefty Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 17:38:00 2012.

I pick B.

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Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 17:59:04 2012, in response to Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 17:33:56 2012.

If Zimmerman worked for the HOA, I haven't heard it. He's been characterized as a "self-appointed" neighborhood watch captain. I was thinking that he probably started the group and made himself boss.

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Re:Irish Catholic Lefty Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 18:02:24 2012, in response to Re:Irish Catholic Lefty Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 17:57:08 2012.

B is a fair answer. I don't deny that blacks have been on the receiving end of racism.



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Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 18:05:59 2012, in response to Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by Rockparkman on Thu Apr 12 17:26:43 2012.

Subject Line corrected to try to maintain some civility:

And so a political commentator has expressed his opinion - just what he's paid to do. Others here, including some moderate liberals have expressed the same point of view. Is he wrong?

I don't know.
I don't know what the forensics show.
I don't know what the witnesses have said.
I don't know about the laws in Florida

I do know that the extremist left-leaners here and elsewhere now seem to believe that American Justice is based on who cheers the loudest or who screams the loudest or who has the bigger mob. Why are you, on the extreme left, so afraid to put your faith in our system that justice will be done in this case and as you did in the Duke Lacrosse case. Much like the Tawanna Brawley fiasco, where an innocent man was hounded to his death, is winning more important than justice? Are your politics so fucked up that you'd try to wreck our system just to get the outcome that you want? Some of you are really fucked up.



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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 18:09:26 2012, in response to Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 18:05:59 2012.

And it's not just Sean. He's just repeating what legal experts have told him.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 12 18:16:05 2012, in response to Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 18:05:59 2012.

Steve civility in OT Chat???

You already know my stance on this....

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 12 19:01:04 2012, in response to Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 18:05:59 2012.

Not only that, but when the inevitable acquital comes in, how many die during the inevitable rioting.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 12 21:02:37 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 12 19:01:04 2012.

Why inevitable acquittal?

If the prosecutor can avoid getting the case dismissed due to the Stand Your Ground law, she has a very good chance of getting a manslaughter conviction. There's no doubt Zimmerman acted recklessly. If he'd just followed the dispatcher's advice, nothing would have happened.

I still think the facts are pretty irrelevant. What matters most is whether the judicial system will let him off based on Stand Your Ground, irrespective of the facts.


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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 12 21:11:01 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 12 21:02:37 2012.

I think the person who is actually covered under the Stand YTour Ground Law in Florida, is not Zimmerman, but Trayvon Martin. Trayvon had every legal right to be where he was, and he was set upon by a gun-wielding stranger who accosted him in the street. Who has a greater need to defend themselves under those circumstances?

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Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Apr 12 21:27:56 2012, in response to Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 17:59:04 2012.

Community Organizer. He should be made president.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Apr 12 21:28:52 2012, in response to Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 18:05:59 2012.

Using the Dave laws of subchat, you've visited Florida, so you are qualified to tell.
I heard the whatchamacallit read on the radio, it seems pretty short ad sorta weak/.

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Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges.

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 21:29:23 2012, in response to Re: Nazi Hannity butthurt over zimmerman charges., posted by orange blossom special on Thu Apr 12 21:27:56 2012.

First we'll need to see that birth certificate...

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 21:30:41 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by orange blossom special on Thu Apr 12 21:28:52 2012.

I didn't want to get into it, but you were wrong about Texas. East Texas, where most people in Texas live, considers itself to be southern.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 21:33:24 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 12 21:11:01 2012.

I would agree except that there's no way of knowing for sure who accosted who. I really doubt that Zimmerman will be convicted unless they get an all black jury.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 12 21:34:51 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 21:33:24 2012.

So, you're saying that blacks are incapable of judging the case impartially, and possibly returning an acquittal?

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 21:43:35 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 12 21:34:51 2012.

Given that I think that Zimmerman should probably be found guilty but won't, shouldn't you infer that I think that non-blacks would not be impartial?

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 22:09:23 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 12 21:11:01 2012.

stand your ground is in over 20 states. people think it's just florida.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 12 22:52:20 2012, in response to Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 18:05:59 2012.

Sean Hannity may also be unfamiliar with Florida law. In Florida, prosecutors always aim very high because juries can convict on a lesser charge.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 12 23:01:12 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 21:43:35 2012.

But you wrote that only an all-black jury would convict Zimmerman. That suggests you believe such a jury would not be able to judge this case on its merits.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:08:21 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 12 23:01:12 2012.

Think about it for a minute.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 23:18:38 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 12 22:52:20 2012.

Doesn't the judge have to charge the jury to consider the lesser included offenses and wouldn't the charges they can consider have to be listed.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 12 23:19:27 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 23:18:38 2012.

Yes---and it almost always happens.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 23:21:43 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 12 23:19:27 2012.

I believe in NY it is up to the presiding judge to decide whether lesser included charges will be included in the charge to the jury. Of course, I'm not a lawyer but I do watch Law & Order.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 12 23:23:13 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 23:21:43 2012.

Of course, I'm not a lawyer but I do watch Law & Order.

You also saved mucho dollars on your car insurance by switching to Geico....



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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:24:57 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 12 23:23:13 2012.

I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last week.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 12 23:25:52 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:24:57 2012.

Ha ha ha

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:30:12 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 12 23:01:12 2012.

Times up.

I didn't say that an all-black jury would necessarily convict Zimmerman, just that one with whites and Hispanics would always vote to acquit. If it goes to trial, this case on the defense side is going to be about Trayvon's gold teeth, his hoodie, his suspensions, etc. Anything that will make him look more threatening. Whites and Hispanics are going to sympathize with Zimmerman.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 23:32:55 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 12 23:25:52 2012.

I warned you about mixing Viagra and ex-lax, right. You won't know whether to are coming or going.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 12 23:34:08 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 23:32:55 2012.

I warned you about mixing Viagra and ex-lax, right. You won't know whether to are coming or going.

Sounds like fun something to do on my vacation...



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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 23:36:05 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:30:12 2012.

I would hope not! I would hope that they consider the evidence carefully. IIRC, the Casey Anthony jurors got death threats. There, the judge did not charge on possible lesser charges and that certainly helped win the acquittal.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:41:31 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 23:36:05 2012.

Yeah, but it's going to be complicated. Zimmerman will be shown to have profiled Trayvon, but at least some non-blacks will see such profiling as reasonable.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 23:48:33 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:41:31 2012.

I'm sure many blacks see it as reasonable. That's why so many want to get the hell out of black neighborhoods. They want to get away from the stereotypical black male youth and see them as dangerous as a whole.




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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:57:55 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 23:48:33 2012.

I don't see how anyone could live in a black neighborhood and see Zimmerman's actions as reasonable based on what we know so far. Aside from the gold teeth Trayvon would be like any other kid around here.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 00:08:58 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 23:57:55 2012.

Because in that part of Florida, from Tampa to Orlando to Miami, who do you think is shooting cops, breaking into homes, doing the drive-bys?

Why do you think HOA's have to form "watch" groups? It's because of minority males, usually black or Hispanic, who are behind nearly every violent crime. Who do you think was behind the recent string of burglaries in Zimmerman's subdivision?


That's just the reality in Florida and much of the south at the moment.

Nothing wrong with profiling. It was used to break up the biggest Italian run heroin ring in America.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 13 00:27:43 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 00:08:58 2012.

My point is that you're not as likely to profile in a black neighborhood because everyone is black. It's when there are few blacks that profiling is more likely.

What do you think of the neighborhood where Trayvon was murdered? I only saw it for the first time a few days ago and it didn't look anywhere near as nice as I had imagined.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 13 00:36:11 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 13 00:27:43 2012.

I've been through Sanford, Fla just a few times. It looked like the kind of place that one might very well hear "Dueling Banjos"



coming from the woods. I also heard that at one time there was a sign on I-4 proclaiming Sanford as "Clan Country" so I never felt that it was a particularly inviting place. However if you used the Autotrain or went from Tampa to Daytona, you couldn't avoid the place.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 00:39:07 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 13 00:27:43 2012.

I think if you're white and been around a lot of black people, like I have, you tend to profile less. It's no big deal for me to go railfanning, or whatever reason, in a black neighborhood. But for so many in the south, multicultural communities is not what they planned when they migrated south. So they tend to be uncomfortable around them.

Many figured they'd be living with senior citizens, not realizing how many blacks and Hispanics are down there. Many are moving back north to Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania or wherever they're from.

No, his neighborhood did not look so nice. His parents were idiots for moving there. I don't know why northerners like it so much.


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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 13 00:52:23 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 13 00:36:11 2012.

lol. I may have been there since I've been to the airport in Orlando a few times, but I don't recall it.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 00:55:10 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 13 00:52:23 2012.

it's a distance from Orlando.

Sanford has an airport that is served by AirTran and Allegiant for people who want to fly a little cheaper to Disney.



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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 13 00:56:11 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 00:39:07 2012.

I've never really cared for Florida. Actually I like to visit, but wouldn't want to live there.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 13 00:57:48 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 13 00:55:10 2012.

My mistake then. That's not the airport that I've been to.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 13 12:15:59 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 13 00:56:11 2012.

I don't even wanna visit other than the keys.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 13 12:21:22 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 13 12:15:59 2012.

Not taking the young'uns to Disney World is just hweird.

Miami is cool.

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 13 15:18:14 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 13 12:21:22 2012.

I agree but my point reflects my attitude after visiting those places.

Your pal,
Fred



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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Apr 13 18:30:43 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 12 21:30:41 2012.

East Texas is southern. People claim the people in the east part are so nice too. (I'm subtracting Houston though).
There's also a Twang Drawl line too for accents. But It's a small part of texas geographically.
I don't know about Dallas, I suppose they are. Which is why Dallas must be a better place to live.

Using the litmus test that if you were in the CSA you're automatically southern means that Arizona is a southern state too!

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Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman

Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Apr 13 18:34:23 2012, in response to Re: Sean Hannity Believes That The Prosecutor May Have Over-Charged Zimmerman, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Apr 13 18:30:43 2012.

Arizona wasn't around to be in the CSA.

http://www.az100years.org/

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