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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Mar 30 20:09:38 2012, in response to TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:06:37 2012. "his is no time to hand the White House back to a candidate pledged to the privileges of the one percent," said President Samuelsen.Too late! I'm glad they're backing such a job destroyer. I can understand federal unions backing him....MAYBE, if tax dollars werent' dependant on the population at large, but transportation unions?? |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Mar 30 20:14:19 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Mar 30 20:09:38 2012. You said you wanted banjos, now go listen to the BEST!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eps4xBmOcNk |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:18:58 2012, in response to TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:06:37 2012. Heh. Yeah, unions are going to endorse the union-busting party. lol |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:26:42 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:18:58 2012. Heh. Yeah, unions are going to endorse the union-busting party. lolLOL @ TWU for making an endorsement so soon, before even knowing who the GOP candidate is. I think I know why they're doing it now. Either way, how's their endorsement of Cuomo working out? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:30:07 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:26:42 2012. Doesn't matter though ... republicans are in a downward spiral of crazy that'd make Perot blush. As to Cuomo, I'm sure a 12-9 can be arranged. He'd best stay with his concubine in Westchester because he ain't welcome here either. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:34:29 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:30:07 2012. republicans are in a downward spiralSo is a once great union for a once great job. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:35:20 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:34:29 2012. TWU was headed downhill when Quill died. Saw it myself in 1970/71. :( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 22:08:50 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:34:29 2012. Why are some people still obsessed with the GOP . . . ? I've heard about them being on a "downward spiral" for well over three-quarters of a decade so far. The liberals have both major parties in their clutches . . . |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 22:40:14 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 22:08:50 2012. Because as hard as you're trying to sell us on it, nobody here's going to vote the Klan into office here. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:24:44 2012, in response to TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:06:37 2012. When will labor (of which I am a part) realize that Obama is not on our side, except for the manpower labor puts in on behalf of the donkeys. And that goes the larger Democratic party. TWU 100 may be in favor of the Democrats now because they haven't suffered layoffs or givebacks ... yet.Democrat Governor Cuomo has just balanced his budget on the backs of present and future state employees. New Democrat Suffolk County Executive Bellone has already overseen the layoff of dozens of civil servants, and now threatens 600 more. This after the unions had two lag payrolls, givebacks on medical and pensions since 2008. With friends like that... |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:29:13 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:35:20 2012. Red Mike II was in it since before Unification.Love him or hate him, we won't see his kind again. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 31 09:36:24 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:24:44 2012. What color are the clouds in your world??? |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Mar 31 12:32:01 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:24:44 2012. because there's too much money at the top. You can't have the 1% leadership turn around and support someone else, even 3rd party, when their lunch money has already been established.Like I said, I can understand federal unions half supporting Obama. They're federal workers. Anyone else is preposterious. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Mar 31 15:39:05 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:24:44 2012. Actually I hope the NTEU endorses no one. I'm surprised anyones got a job after these cutbacks. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 18:24:15 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:24:44 2012. Cuomo is one of those democrats who likes to pretend to be a republican in hopes of the White House. He's BECOME a republican like those blue dogs in Dixie. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 18:29:29 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:29:13 2012. The guy took care of his members, and the railroad ran ... contrast and compare. :) |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Mar 31 22:00:39 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 18:24:15 2012. Aint' that the modern republican party. Moderate Democrats. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 22:21:20 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Mar 31 22:00:39 2012. See what happens when you cut off politician's meds? :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 1 13:08:22 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:24:44 2012. i have no problem with endorsing obama. we know twu 100 will do that. but so soon? they should at least make noise like, "no contract no endorsements" or play the game and wait until an opponent is named and we're closer to election day. twu looks stupid, again. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 16:41:23 2012, in response to TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:06:37 2012. bumpTA workers. You're not pissed that your union is prematurely endorsing someone while you don't even have a raise? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:01:50 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 16:41:23 2012. Fact is, they are not premature at all. By endorsing now, they have that much more time to organize their election workers, fundraise and coordinate their effort to re-elect the President. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:05:29 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:01:50 2012. It's stupid to endorse before knowing who is opponent is. Makes them look stupid. It's also stupid to endorse without a contract and raise. No contract. No endorsement. That should be the new war cry of TWU 100. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:12:56 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:05:29 2012. Not at all. One has nothing to do with the other. TWU is smart enough to walk and chew gum at the same time. It's also pretty clear they wouldn't be endorsing the republican, since all of the options are, most importantly, anti-union. Pretty obvious when you think about it, eh? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 2 17:26:42 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:12:56 2012. I agree with you based on some of the employees who lose their job because the TWU wanted them fired more than management did. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:27:34 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:12:56 2012. It's obvious that the union is a joke and mismanaged.No contract. No endorsements. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:28:50 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 2 17:26:42 2012. Interesting. I've heard that they want to get rid of people who didn't pay union dues. I know of one who is gone and one on his way out. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 2 17:33:45 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:05:29 2012. you're a jackass. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 2 17:34:33 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 2 17:26:42 2012. If the union wants them gone they must be scum. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:46:52 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:27:34 2012. Obviously TWU sees differently. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:50:50 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 2 17:26:42 2012. That's disingenuous. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 18:13:04 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:46:52 2012. which shows what a joke TWU 100 is.No contract No raise No endorsement time to say "fuck you" to politicians until they start delivering for the workers. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Apr 2 18:46:19 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 16:41:23 2012. Hey, I'm still waiting for an answer on on why the Unions are against putting seniors in those great federal exchanges everyone here was boasting about during Obamacare!Always silence. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Apr 2 20:20:31 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:05:29 2012. I think it's good that they endorsed Obama. Pretty soon there'd be no one to ride them buses. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 20:30:46 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 18:13:04 2012. The republicans are the last to do that. Rmoney made a fortune delivering pink slips to the workers. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 3 17:27:07 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 2 17:12:56 2012. Not at all. What's a Republican president got to do with some bus drivers in NYC?Maybe make a economy where more people work, for more tax revenues? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 3 19:26:07 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:28:50 2012. That's the LAW.NYS is not a Freeloader Right-to-Work-for-Less State. If they don't pay their dues, they're out. It's the law and it's how things should be. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Tue Apr 3 19:27:18 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:28:50 2012. GOOD!!! CAN THEM ALL!!! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 3 19:38:56 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 3 19:26:07 2012. Actually, I've been told that the law protects the scabs who didn't pay. TWU 100 has to represent them. And they have. But they may conspire in private to provide poor representation to them. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Tue Apr 3 19:53:56 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 3 19:38:56 2012. That law needs to be changed and the labor movement needs an anti Nazi database they can use to keep Nazis from working ANYWHERE. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 3 20:04:21 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by Rockparkman on Tue Apr 3 19:53:56 2012. Both scabs are hardcore Democrats and voted for Obama. And will again. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 3 20:25:14 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 3 19:38:56 2012. Yeah, but if you didn't pay your dues, there's no hurry to send out a steward to help you. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 3 21:50:07 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 2 17:28:50 2012. That was when they lost the dues "check-off" after the last strike. Many people just never paid their dues voluntarily. When the TWU got the dues check-off back there were many who didn't pay the dues that were owed. Many of those were people who also frequently ran afoul of management. The TWU was still obligated to represent them in the disciplinary process but it seemed to me that for those who were significantly behind in their dues, the representation at hearings was somewhat less than stellar. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 3 21:56:25 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 3 19:38:56 2012. Tri-partite arbitration is an interesting process. Since the arbitrator is paid jointly by labor and management, (and since the arbitrator wants to be called back at $1500 per day) he or she will often split the decisions, giving the union half and management half of the day's decisions. It is more about how seriously each case is viewed by the respective sides. If the TWU wants to save "Jones", then Jackson may have to lose his case. It is what it is. Hence a person who is delinquent in his or her dues may be one of those sacrificed for someone who is current. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 4 01:00:28 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 3 21:50:07 2012. Yup.Railman and myself know a scab who got demoted and quit b/c he didn't like his new title. Had he paid his dues he might have been offered weeks in the street instead. Just my guess. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Apr 4 01:18:49 2012, in response to TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 30 20:06:37 2012. My country comes before my union. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Apr 4 08:09:23 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 3 21:56:25 2012. Before New Directions got in and fired most of the arbitrators, TA was winning way more than half. It was a normal affair seeing someone lose a case with clear cut contract language in his/her favor. Firing the existing ones helped make the system fairer for the innocent today even though TA retaliated by writing more DANS. I think Adelman was one of the ones kept behind, and IIRC he ruled against OPTO on the L line, one of the best and safer decisions (in agreement with system safety) made since I left |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 6 13:01:17 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:35:20 2012. TWU still does not have a contract. Yet they are endorsing and getting nothing for it.No contract. No Endorsement. Cuomo is one of the most visible Dems in America and he's leading the way in pension reform. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 6 18:04:54 2012, in response to Re: TWU 100 Endorses President Obama For Reelection, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 6 13:01:17 2012. The only pension reform required is to give back the money stolen from the funds ... |
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