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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 13:56:49 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 13:50:17 2012. your bringing up disestablishment was nevertheless a red herringNo it was not. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 13:59:09 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 13:56:49 2012. What can it possibly matter if Canada doesn't have a church to disestablish? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 14:01:11 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Mar 30 11:58:01 2012. Won't save the government any money to take the penny out of circulation. Also makes the currency look weak. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 14:03:25 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Mar 30 13:39:49 2012. Were you around during Carter? There's a reason a sitting President lost in a landslide.Are you better off than you were four years ago? I'm not. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 14:05:23 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 13:39:54 2012. Well, the twin pillars of world power are military and economic.Corruption in a world power is a threat to it, but niceness is not going to convey any power to an underling. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 14:08:15 2012, in response to Re: ynneP setanimilE adanaC, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 14:01:11 2012. BTW, this is the value of 100! (100 factorial)93,326,215,443,944,152,681,699,238,856,266,700,490,715,968,264,381,621,468,592,963,895,217,599,993,229,915,608,941,463,976,156,518,286,253,697,920,827,223,758,251,185,210,916,864,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 14:17:06 2012, in response to Re: ynneP setanimilE adanaC, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 14:08:15 2012. OK, approx 10^158. Sounds about right. Also has 24 zeros, which is correct, since it should have 24 factors of 5 and far more factors of 2. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 14:18:54 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 14:03:25 2012. Are you better off than you were four years ago? I'm not.I'm far better off. 2012 will be the first year I make more money than 2001. |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 30 14:50:01 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 09:00:05 2012. The whole reason America is in decline is because of demographic decline; the average IQ of the population is decreasing as a greater number of low-IQ individuals (especially those of color) breed while high-IQ individuals fail to do so in sufficient quantity. Eventually there will be too few economically productive individuals to sustain the rest of the population, and then we're in big trouble... |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 30 15:17:26 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 30 14:50:01 2012. The scary thing is responsible people hold off having kids as they cant afford 'another' yet irresponsible people keep having tbem because everyone else will pay for them. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 15:34:05 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 12:51:57 2012. I'm not saying it will, I'm just saying it's the most likely.They can certainly build their economy to the point where the whole low wage thing becomes unnecessary. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 15:34:48 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 30 15:17:26 2012. +1 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 15:38:35 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 14:05:23 2012. Projecting fake power through a lot of bloating only angers the underlings and makes them think they can win. You act nice to them and subdue them behind their back. Teddy Roosevelt understood the formula. George W. Bush didn't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 15:40:51 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 12:44:50 2012. LOL!Who do you think "he" was in the Declaration of Independence? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 15:45:09 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 13:50:17 2012. The Governor General is the functional equivalent of the ceremonial president of a republic with a parliamentary government, like most European republics (notable exceptions: France and Russia), Israel and India. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 15:45:54 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 13:59:09 2012. He obviously meant monarchical disestablishment. He was obviously wrong. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 15:49:27 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 12:44:50 2012. The only reasons the United States did not support the French Revolution is because they executed our allies from the Revolutionary War and because the United States couldn't afford to fight Britain again.If there were a British Revolution instead, the United States would have supported it. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 16:01:55 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 14:18:54 2012. I'm making less in actual dollars than I made in 1988. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Mar 30 16:09:00 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 30 15:17:26 2012. The scary thing is responsible people hold off having kids as they cant afford 'another' yet irresponsible people keep having tbem because everyone else will pay for them.One can break up the irresponsible people into different groups. Some are just overly impulsive due to low IQ and poor conscientiousness and other emotional and mental issues, and thus think only in terms of the short-term benefits of sex or the desire to feel "loved" by a baby, not the long-term consequences. Others are people who milk the system in an attempt to live a comfortable, yet lower class lifestyle. Sure they're getting all sorts of crazy hand-outs, but would you really want to live their lifestyle on those wages? And there are some who do fall into welfare use due to employment loss or disability. FWIW, welfare reform during the 1990s basically destroyed the old meme of women having five or six kids to milk the government for checks, and it's been swapped for the meme of a single mother with at most one or two children from one or two different fathers respectively due from short to medium term relationships. If we take away all support from these women, you may see less children, but we've done most of the easy part already. The most that we can get away with is free or subsidized abortions, and that's illegal with federal dollars, and nearly impossible with state dollars in most states. Sterilization is just a political nightmare that makes abortion debates look polite, and it remains to be seen if there's a market for adopting low IQ babies in the US, especially black and Hispanic ones, so we're left with kids who will need support via expensive foster care or orphanages and group homes. Hoping and praying that low IQ people don't have sex and have children is downright futile and naive, and unless we're willing to let them starve, we're going to intervene and any intervention is going to cost money. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 16:29:43 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Mar 30 16:09:00 2012. Eugenics, anyone? Though I know this is anecdotal, one of my neighbors was definitely a Juke, another a Kallikak, Even better was another neighbor who is the kind of Yuppie who orders premium beer by mail order, lets me take receipt of it because I feel sorry for the UPS guy getting stuck with extra work because this jerk is never home to receive, then takes his own sweet time picking it up.Can't win. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 16:45:00 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 16:01:55 2012. Sorry to hear that. Situations differ. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 16:47:06 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 15:45:54 2012. But the word "disestablishment" generally refers to the state religion and not the monarch. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 16:54:09 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 16:47:06 2012. True, but I think it was clear from the context. Besides, he believes in the divine right of kings. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 17:49:03 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 30 14:50:01 2012. You're not on Stormfront, you know . . . |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 30 18:19:16 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Mar 30 16:09:00 2012. Others are people who milk the system in an attempt to live a comfortable, yet lower class lifestyle. Sure they're getting all sorts of crazy hand-outs, but would you really want to live their lifestyle on those wages? And there are some who do fall into welfare use due to employment loss or disability.Of course I wouldn't, however that doesn't change the point that THOSE sort of people reproduce at a much higher rate that responsible people. Hoping and praying that low IQ people don't have sex and have children is downright futile and naive Another reason why I feel people should have full access to abortions. THese poor children are brought into an endless cycle of welfare. It's very unfortunate. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 21:16:26 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 30 18:19:16 2012. Welfare has nothing to do with IQ. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Mar 31 00:09:55 2012, in response to Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by DAND124 on Thu Mar 29 20:24:25 2012. Excellent! Now if only the US could do the same thing. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Mar 31 01:04:07 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 30 13:39:54 2012. Without a strong economy there is no foundation for that military strength. America may wield a mighty military, but it means about as much as a steel gauntlet in the hands of an osteoporosis ridden person with a drug habit. If we got off the foreign oil maybe we'd stand a chance at rebuilding our economy. Unfortunately the 'Drill Baby Drill' crowd would have us act like desperate junkies, looking to snort whatever rocks may have fallen aside when we started our habit all while still shelling out petrodollars to foreign oil suppliers. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 01:22:42 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 12:56:11 2012. We also declined further under Reagan.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Mar 31 08:46:03 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by WillD on Sat Mar 31 01:04:07 2012. Maybe it's time to disestablish the US as a nation and just convert the military to a "Global Police". |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Mar 31 08:50:26 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 09:00:05 2012. The US still had a decent amount of jobs for unskilled workers under Carter.Higher education wasn't a necessity under Carter and was a LOT more affordable than now. Costs of that have gone up TENFOLD since Carter left office. Healthcare cost weren't out of control under Carter either. Notice how nobody idealized single-payer systems until Bush 41. Obama cannot be compared to Carter. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 09:25:50 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Mar 31 08:46:03 2012. No, howbout we stop viewing the US as empire and keep sufficient military so nobody messes with us.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:57:53 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 01:22:42 2012. You have a great way of responding by not responding.your pal, SLRT |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Mar 31 10:01:27 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Mar 31 08:50:26 2012. Carter only gave us one Islamic Dicatorship too that will cause a war. Obama gave us a half a dozen.Most of the issues you gave Obama 'inherited'. I'd surmise most of the issues went under Clinton, but there's so much spin and it's such a generalization, that any evidence for or against is mostly a made up flame war. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 10:02:14 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 09:25:50 2012. Well, it doesn't quite work that way. Even if Fortress America were possible in the modern world, we would be continually tested by other powers seeing how far we could be pushed without responding.Iran and North Korea are doing that right now, to start with. your pal, SLRT |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 31 10:02:29 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by WillD on Sat Mar 31 01:04:07 2012. If we got off the foreign oil maybe we'd stand a chance at rebuilding our economy. Unfortunately the 'Drill Baby Drill' crowd would have us act like desperate junkies, looking to snort whatever rocks may have fallen aside when we started our habit all while still shelling out petrodollars to foreign oil suppliers.There's a middle ground. Continue fuel conservation efforts. Strengthen drilling regulations. New York is making a major effort on that front. Put some public land off limits because it is too scenic to be crisscrossed with the infrastructure drilling requires. Drill safely on the remaining land. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 10:09:16 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:57:53 2012. You only responded to half my post! ::cough::hypocrite::coughyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 10:15:28 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 10:09:16 2012. You didn't respond to any of mine.And you should do something about that *cough*. I don't want my pal to be sick. your pal, SLRT |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 10:17:38 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 10:02:14 2012. Thanks but I didn't say anything about Fortress America did I? I did't infer isolationism either. I stated we shouldn't act like America is an empire.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 10:19:17 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 10:15:28 2012. We also declined further under Reagan.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat Mar 31 11:11:51 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 07:23:23 2012. Agreed. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat Mar 31 11:17:09 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 08:51:54 2012. I'm glad. The American ideal to preemptively invade countriesbisnsomething that shouldn't be replicated. Nor is the American ideal to be the only 1st world country to not provide universal healthcare, one of the few that retains the death penalty, having a "democracy" where the only choices on the ballot are "tweedle dee" and "tweedle dum" and both are under the powers of wealthy special interests and not the Average citizen. Also, let's not forget the American ideal of NOT talking to those we don't like and using guns instead of diplomacy. If other coultries don't follow these American ideals the world actually might be a better place, |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 11:18:45 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 30 07:32:41 2012. Calling me "people" is so pedestrian. sheesh.I use "Stalingrad" more as a metaphor for historic turning point then literal military defeat. Iraq marks the point where our treasury was raided for a fools errand and our nation started really heading for the rocks. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 12:24:39 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 10:19:17 2012. I disagree. As compared to what? And in what way? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:13:15 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 11:18:45 2012. No, that's not the turning point when the nation was headed for the rocks. It was much further back than that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:14:14 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by TonyG on Sat Mar 31 11:17:09 2012. All propaganda. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 31 15:55:31 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 07:23:23 2012. What happens when we exit Iraq and Afganistan? Same as Vietnam. Don't worry- in a few years we will be sending our young people to die in some other rat hole! WHEN will we ever learn??? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 15:57:57 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 31 15:55:31 2012. Some of us already have learned. Now if we can just find a way to stop the rest from wanting war every 5 years, we'll be in good shape.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 16:00:44 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 31 15:55:31 2012. That's just silly talk. We wouldn't be sending anyone to die if our politicians didn't get in the way of their fighting. And no, you don't want any other country to take over the rôle of "world policeman". |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 16:01:12 2012, in response to Re: Canada Eliminates Penny, posted by SLRT on Fri Mar 30 07:23:23 2012. Oh yes, the first victory of internationalist leftism against the USA. |
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